Wednesday, September 25, 2019

TIME UP FOR TRUMP?

If confirmed the news that President Trump ordered his staff to freeze $400 million in funds appropriated by Congress earmarked as aid to the Ukraine a few days before he telephoned the Ukrainian President seeking 'dirt' on the family activities of Joe Biden, his possible Democrat opponent in next years election, is impeachment material slam dunk.   For the Democrats this is the smoking gun ... Speaker Pelosi has been counselling caution on impeachment ... not any more.

As I said, it's smoking gun slam dunk.  The withholding of federal funds to pressure another country to provide dirt on a political opponent.    Simple question ... what say National had won the election and Prime Minister Bridges had instructed MFAT to withhold aid to the Tokelau Islands pending him phoning Kerisiano Kalolo (Head of Government) seeking dirt on Ross Ardern (the Administrator and father of Jacinda) that he could use against his daughter as Leader of the Labour Party ... don't bother answering as there is only one answer ... resignation.

If Trump were smart he would resign and get the now President Pence to issue him a blanket Presidential Pardon.   But he won't because he's not that smart.   Impeachment will proceed apace and, if successful, you could well find the 'orange' man in an orange jump suit.   Perhaps 'time' will see him breaking bread with a certain large German well known to us all ... they have much in common.

21 comments:

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

If ifs and ands were pots and pans!

Already 'the news' is looking very shaky. The so called 'whistle blower' is in fact a leaker with close ties to Clinton and Schumer. He has no evidence, just reports the hearsay from some other person (unknown) who claims to have heard a conversation.

Among other things, It's been suggested this is a 'black op' by Warren to get rid of Biden.

Anonymous said...

Gee, yet another smoking gun, but this one's the one that's gunna get him apparently...
I won't hold my breath...

Oddball

Anonymous said...

https://www.thewrap.com/the-house-of-representatives-is-conducting-an-impeachment-inquiry-into-trump-what-happens-next/

Andrei said...

Joe Biden withheld aid from Ukraine until they fired the prosector who was investigating the firm that his Son, the worthless Hnter Biden worked for.

Though what Hunter Biden actually did for the company is highly uncertain.

This could turn out to be another Road Runner "beep beep" exploding stick of dynamite for Trumps Democratic Party enemies

Noel said...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-whistleblower-transcript/protocol-suggests-trumps-promised-transcript-of-ukraine-call-unlikely-to-be-verbatim-idUSKBN1W935S

paul scott said...

Garbage.

The Veteran said...

It will not have escaped readers that I started this post with the words ‘If confirmed’. Jury still out on that. Nevertheless one hopes the promised transcript does not have another 18 minute 30 second gap in it that a previous transcript had 45 years ago.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Further to last:-

This is a double win for Pelosi. She keeps the rabid base on side with a futile impeachment bid and she gets rid of Biden who has become a serious liability.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

Impeachment proceedings started...

"Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced that the US House of Representatives would begin a formal impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump, setting the stage for an extraordinary constitutional clash over allegations that the president sought the help of a foreign country to harm a political rival.

“The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the constitution,” Pelosi said in a formal address in Washington on Tuesday evening. “The president must be held accountable. No one is above the law"

You see Adolf, it's a bit like the UK....futile court cases and futile impeachment proceedings have a habit of not being futile after all.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Veteran and Mr Egbut,

Please become more informed about US constitutional processes. Speaker Pelosi has launched a process that has no constitutional validity for impeachment. For impeachment proceedings the House has to have a vote of the whole House to proceed. The reason the House hasn't voted is because word is that Speaker Pelosi doesn't have the numbers. Hence this 'inquiry' that has no constitutional basis.

If the House votes for impeachment then the Senate actually decides, and has to have a super majority to declare an impeachment. I am sure you have noticed that the Republicans control the Senate, and the chances of the Republican Senate providing a super majority to impeach a Republican President are realistically viewed as extremely slim.

So, what we seem to have in the USA at the moment is partisan politics as usual, with an extra twist of nastiness to add to the flavour. It makes for good entertainment, but is highly unlikely to end in actual impeachment.

The Veteran said...

Anon 7.56 .... I'm well aware of the process thank you. But the thought of the US government being paralysed in the lead up to the election is a sobering one indeed ... and make no mistake about it ... the process will have a negative effect on the functioning of government. The US is hopelessly divided and impeachment will exacerbate those tensions to the point where I actually fear for the future of the US as a democracy.

Look, I'm not so naive as to believe the Democrats are as pure as the driven snow because they're not by a long shot. But I do think that Trump was and is manifestly unfit to be President. America deserves better.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

If may add to that Veteran....an inquiry is just that, an inquiry. However if the evidence is produced that Trump is riding roughshod over the law then it will be a very foolish senate indeed not to back impeachment or they will never see power again in my lifetime.

If Americans are to be beleived the constitution comes just before the star spangled banner and just after mom's apple pie.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

The transcript of the phone call...draw your own conclusions but it certainly does not sound like democracy in action to me.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Unclassified09.2019.pdf

Psycho Milt said...

So, it turns out that yes Trump did tie future arms sales to Ukraine to its president's willingness to "do him a favour," which should be the impeachment slam-dunk The Veteran mentioned in his post.

The thing is though, we're talking about Republicans here. So far, they're seeing nothing unusual or reprehensible about their president using his position to demand personal political favours. I'm not surprised by that, because as corrupt politicians with the integrity of weasels themselves, of course they see nothing unusual in it. However, the fact they're willing to say so publicly just shows how far down the sewer they've taken US politics, ie they're clearly not concerned that Republican voters will have any problem with their open embrace of corruption.

Noel said...

Germany and Merkel are useless. NOFORM.Geez thought he would have redacted that.

Andrei said...

Your last comment is somewhat subdued there Egbut

I'm not surprised - that transcript taken into the context of Joe Biden publically gloating he got a Ukrainian prosecutor fired by threatening to withhold money (see below).

And the fact that the fired prosecutor was at the time actively investigating Burisma Holdings a Ukrainian company that had given Hunter Biden, Joe's son a lucrative position...

Watch and weep Egbut

It's called "draining the swamp" my friend

Noel said...


https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/25/why-trump-asked-ukraines-president-to-look-into-crowdstrike.html

Gerald said...

More here Noel


https://www.wired.com/story/trump-ukraine-call-crowdstrike-dnc-russia/

Psycho Milt said...

Read and weep, Andrei.

It's called "draining the swamp," my friend.

Andrei said...

I'm laughing not weeping Milt.

On one hand we have Joe Biden openly boasting how he got Viktor Shokin fired

Coupled with the employment of Hunter Biden by Burismo coupled with interesting questions on what value Hunter Biden employment might add to the company

For example - he has zero experimence in the oil and Gas industry - in fact his employment history is somewhat spotty

He doesn't live in Ukraine, speak the language or have any connection whatsoever with Ukraine

Burismo doesn't do buiness in the USA where he lives

So what quality did he have that Burismo saw fit to employ him

Well his dad just happens to be VP and is running point on the previous adminstrations Ukrainian project

And his dad did get a special prosecutor in Ukraine who was investgating Burismo removed from office.

The optics don't look too good do they?

Psycho Milt said...

The fact that business in eastern Europe is thoroughly corrupt and offering sinecures for political influence is the norm isn't exactly news. And Biden's a career democrat, so will be of the same ilk as career Republicans. Thing is though, the evidence is that Biden getting Shokin fired was nothing to do with trying to hinder investigation of Burismo, not least because Shokin was already doing that - if anything, it looks like Biden risked harming his son's financial interests by getting Shokin fired.

Nothing like that in Trump's case, just a straightforward request to do him a personal favour and dig dirt on a political opponent in exchange for future arms deals. Now, there's a swamp that needs draining.