Saturday, February 1, 2020

All Political Lives End In Failure?

But is that really true? I don't think it was for John Key, who bowed out on top. Nor was it for President Ronald Reagan, who not only saw his Vice President succeed him - a very rare, third-time Presidential election win - but also saw his greatest enemy, the Soviet Empire, that he had worked against for years, start to collapse within months of him finishing his two terms of office.

And it certainly is not true for this guy, Nigel Farage, shown on the left in one of the greatest Twitter shit-posts of all time.

But you can also seem him in the clip below giving his last speech in the EU "parliament", a farewell that caps his twenty five year long effort to extract Britain from the EU.

That was a seemingly quixotic task in the beginning, but it saw Farage transformed from being a figure of fun and mockery to a fugure despised and hated by millions as he triumphed. And it included returning from a well-earned retirement in 2016 to lead a final charge with a party he created in a matter of months that finally nailed down the people's vote when it seemed the EU bureaucrats might win after all with their tactics of delay and deflect.

And now, like Cincinnatus with the wars won, he will retire to the countryside, a path that was held by the American Founders to be the desired model of a political leader.

There are certainly few politicians in history who can reflect on a political triumph as great and as sweet as this one.

You really should watch the entire 5 minute clip as he reflects on the EU stunts that have led to this point, particularly the repeated votes on an EU constitution after it was rejected by French, Dutch and Irish voters. No wonder they and their British allies pushed so hard for a second BREXIT referendum: it had worked before.

And take special note from the 4 minute mark on as perfect example of how the EU still does not understand what has happened here.

In that last minute the school-marm chairing the session actually cuts off Farage's microphone because he and his group took out little British flags to wave as they left:
If you disobey the rules you get cut off!
Really? And the additional punishment is....??? To stand in the naughty corner? On the naughty step? To be thrown out?

FFS. They're leaving and telling you to stuff it, in a polite but firm British manner!

And then she gives them a little lecture about it all, like using the word "hate". Yes, Farage said the following:
We love Europe. We just hate the European Union.
My, how triggering.

But that statement is a perfect summation of the basic reason for leaving. As Farage said, his parents voted in 1975 to join a European Common Market - not to join a political union with flags, anthems, Presidents, a Court of Justice, and even an Army, and all with constant dismissive rejections of the votes of the European peoples.

And of course the full quote is from a person who had his own ideas about where Britain should go:
All political lives, unless they are cut off in midstream at a happy juncture, end in failure, because that is the nature of politics and of human affairs.
BREXIT will happen at 12 noon New Zealand time today. You can watch it live here.

The following article is also worth reading, The great Brexit wound has almost healed.

I especially noted these quotes, after the article lists a few of the most hard-line Remainers still having a temper tantrum:
And yet these people are a tiny, if voluble, minority. The remarkable thing is that since December 13 the great national divide over Brexit seems to have mended almost completely.
The vast majority of those who voted Remain have long since accustomed themselves to us leaving — a point never really reflected in the mainstream media, which of course prefers dissent to accord and still thought the whole thing was up for debate.
As it happened, that cleft did not take a generation to heal — it took about two weeks. Since Boris Johnson’s remarkable victory, the fugue of complaint has been effectively silenced — except for on that lunatic wing.
It makes the point that by this stage a lot of the Remainers had simply decided to get on with things, even as they continued to disagree with their Brexit opponents, aided no doubt by the fact that...
Not a single one of those egregious Project Fear predictions has come true, not one. 
Inward investment stock in the UK was more in 2018 than in France and Germany combined, at almost £1.5 trillion ($1.95 million) — no. 1 in Europe. The UK’s economic growth is predicted to outperform the entire eurozone, with Germany — only recently sidestepping an official recession — heading towards stagnation. Unemployment is the lowest it has been for 45 years and the unemployment rate just a little more than half of that for the eurozone as a whole. Wages are at last rising. The pound is comparatively buoyant. 
Then there is this. Will Brexit render your home worthless, as the then-chancellor George Osborne kindly advised in 2016? Nope, quite the reverse. Since Brexit was assured by that general election victory in December, British house prices have risen at their fastest rate since 2002, according to the property website Rightmove.


Adolf Fiinkensein said...

And straight out of the Trump playbook comes a tax cut.

This is going to be the best comedy since Monty Python!

Go Boris!!!!!!

RosscoWlg said...

Thanks Tom, another good analysis.

The UK is now a sovereign state again and perhaps a model for other states to escape Socialism in another guise. And the UK is booming while the rest lamguish.

Another lesson for all the elites who posted here who really don't understand the power of the ordinary bloke, who is so often right at their expense.

Who can forget old what's-his-name Lord Dingbat and his prognostications, who had as much connection to the UK people as a penguin does to the equator.

Anonymous said...

Slightly premature there Tom.

"Not a single one of those egregious Project Fear predictions has come true, not one."

If you don't understand what is happening you really shouldn't write about it but I do understand the agenda behind your post

It is simple, the UK is in a one year transition period where it still trades tariff free with the EU and business is in exactly the same situation as it was a year ago, uncertainty and unable to plan because there is not a single trade deal that has been made and the Irish question is not settled.

The fate of the millions of Nationals living in each others countries is still under debate, unimportant things like pensions and healthcare etc. and there is no doubt that PM Johnson is using them as a bargaining chip. He is a detestable little man.

Until the relationship with the EU and US nailed down everything is guess work but if it is a no deal and the US plays hardball then it will be the death of a thousand cuts and in twenty years British tradesmen will be going into the EU on temporary work visas to gain employment when the UK was the sick man of Europe.

Don't Timothy Spall and Jimmy Nail look young.

1973 just as De Gaulle finally let the Brits in when they were so broke they couldn't pay the bills.....


Anonymous said...

Mr Twentytwo,

You are optimistic with twenty years. Johnson, like Trump, got in with tidal wave of lies.

Johnson should really learn to read entire paragraphs. He obviously only read the first sentence of the famous Goebbels quote: "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

Maybe he should have read the rest of the paragraph: "The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State."
It will be difficult to "shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences" of brexit, especially after the end of the transition period.


Anonymous said...

Lovely story here about two WW2 veterans.

In spite of the alt-rights continual banging on about British sacrifices in Europe using raw emotion as a weapon almost all ex soldiers, particularly those who worked closely with the Danes and French in Afghanistan realise the stupidity of leaving. The RAF are really pissed off about this as they are danger of being sidelined if Trump keeps up his anti NATO stance.

Anonymous said...

What a dismal failure you are Tom. The link in the above is an honest appraisal of your "we are leaving the UK" photo shot".

Why should you care? A farmer with a very small holding pushing a very distorted view of something happening on the other side of the planet

Tom Hunter said...

It would seem that many Remainers have accepted what has happened and decided to get on with life in an independent Britain.

But in every war there are always the bitter old Dead Enders, in this case the Remoaners, and with everything else having failed they're reaching into the usual grab-bag of Lefty tactics with The Emotional Appeal and Guilting and Shaming - in this case with a couple of WWII vets who are Europhiles. How wonderful! Given that it's The Independent they naturally do the half-truth approach; given the bell-curve of opinion on most topics it's a certainty that there are plenty of WWII vets who are more than happy to do Brexit.

In fact, here's a short video that has a number of WWII vets who supported Brexit. But don't worry, even though the source is they're even-handed in precisely the way the dishonest Independent is not, so they also show some vets opposed to Brexit.

And how appropriate that the group with that video in the Independent was made by a group called "Led By Donkeys". Like the chair-woman in the Farage video there is not a trace of self-awareness or irony.

Tom Hunter said...

@Mr Twenty Two

.... It is simple, the UK is in a one year transition period where it still trades tariff free with the EU and business is in exactly the same situation as it was a year ago,....

Except that's not what your side of this argument was saying in 2016.

No, all those predictions were that Hell and Damnation would start happening soon after the vote as people and businesses began to prepare for Leave: falling investment, falling currency, rising unemployment and blah, blah, blah.

Now that those things haven't happened the Remainers have learned nothing, refused to question their own assumptions and beliefs but simply moved the date of the apocalypse.

That is entirely typical for such Millenarianial cults, which is one reason why sensible people ignore them.

Anonymous said...

umm all 27 countries are sovereign except for trade rules which now the UK has opted out of..

What don't you understand about that? But it might be of interest to know that after years of Tory austerity to pay off the national debt it stands at about NZ$195,000 per man woman and child. Not a good start for a new start with a

New Zealand is about 57,000 but feel free to correct me.


Tom Hunter said...

You're in total denial and now trying to shift to another topic. The topic of this thread is GB leaving the EU, not austerity and debt, although we could talk about Italian and Greek debt I suppose.

... all 27 countries are sovereign...

In the wake of the EU Constitution/Lisbon Treaty being imposed on French, Dutch and Irish voters who voted against it the word "sovereign" will have to be re-defined as being not totally in control of your own nation, something other EU members are finding on other issues as well.

RosscoWlg said...

Yep the EU has been able to accomplish something Hitler or Mussolini were never able to do:

Unite Europe and run it by appointed Commissioners.

Perhaps in the end it will be the long term hand of Communism in the guise of Socialism that is triumphant.?

Billy Bragg said...

TAKE ME BACK TO DEAR OLD BLIGHTY - will Boris' Brexit suffer the same fate as the Boris Bus?

Back when Boris Johnson was mayor of London, he commissioned a new fleet of buses for the city to replace the driver-only operated buses widely used by Transport for London. The design he came up with was based on most iconic London bus, the Routemaster, in service from the late 50s until the last were phased out in 2005. Entered by an open platform at the back, the Routemaster required a crew of two: a driver, and a conductor to collect fares.

Wishing to hark back to the image of Swinging London, Johnson commissioned the New Routemaster, which reintroduced the rear entrance and the conductor. Having been designed to order, the buses were much more expensive than off-the-shelf models that were already in production.

Soon after their introduction, Transport for London dispensed with the conductor as too costly. With no one to collect fares from people using the back platform, fare-dodging increased to such an extent that some routes were curtailed or cut due to what looked like a significant drop in passenger numbers.

This week it was announced that the back doors would be closed permanently and the buses would revert to the front entry, driver-only operated model that the new Routemasters were designed to replace. The whole project has cost a huge amount of money yet delivered very little discernable change. Johnson’s exercise in nostalgia collapsed in the face of economic realities.

As crowds gathered in Parliament Square last night to wave union jacks and sing ‘Take Me Back To Dear Old Blighty’ – the Leave voter's version of MAGA – it occurred to me that the fate of Brexit may yet turn out to be very similar to that of the Boris Bus: a costly project sold on an appeal to the past that proves unworkable when put in to practice because, in trying to evoke the good old days, it ignored the advantages of the current arrangements.

Tom Hunter said...

Christ - another blast from the past with.... Billy Bragg. He came across as being both a fanatic and a boring plonker even in the 1980's and age has not dulled his hard-edged hatred.

Speaking of that fabulous decade, here's The Smiths with Bigmouth Strikes Again. I also included it because the song - at least on the original album, The Queen Is Dead - included a sample lead-in from a version of Take Me Back To Dear Old Blighty sung by Cicely Courtneidge from the 1962 film The L-Shaped Room.

RosscoWlg said...

Billy Bag like all remoaners caught up in the very very small stuff.

Brexit is and was a big picture policy. The EEC was a customs union, nothing more, but against the peoples will it was turned into a version of Socialism with European "Commissioners" calling the shots (unelected, of course.)

It was all about Democracy and the future ideology that will shape the UK.

To put it in your small thought framework, it is a question of whether you want a Russian bus or a Boris Bus. Personally I'd take the Boris bus every day of the week!

RosscoWlg said...

Winston Churchill 1945.... replace the word Socialism, if you want, with EU, makes no difference to my world view

""….there can be no doubt that Socialism is inseparably interwoven with Totalitarianism and the abject worship of the State. …liberty, in all its forms is challenged by the fundamental conceptions of Socialism. …there is to be one State to which all are to be obedient in every act of their lives. This State is to be the arch-employer, the arch-planner, the arch-administrator and ruler, and the arch-caucus boss.

A Socialist State once thoroughly completed in all its details and aspects… could not afford opposition. Socialism is, in its essence, an attack upon the right of the ordinary man or woman to breathe freely without having a harsh, clumsy tyrannical hand clapped across their mouths and nostrils.

But I will go farther. I declare to you, from the bottom of my heart that no Socialist system can be established without a political police. Many of those who are advocating Socialism or voting Socialist today will be horrified at this idea. That is because they are shortsighted, that is because they do not see where their theories are leading them.

No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent. They would have to fall back on some form of Gestapo, no doubt very humanely directed in the first instance.

And this would nip opinion in the bud; it would stop criticism as it reared its head, and it would gather all the power to the supreme party and the party leaders, rising like stately pinnacles above their vast bureaucracies of Civil servants, no longer servants and no longer civil. And where would the ordinary simple folk—the common people, as they like to call them in America—where would they be, once this mighty organism had got them in its grip? """"

Seppo Renfors said...

A jackbooted thug quoting war criminal Churchill. How refreshing.

Tom Hunter said...

Winston Churchill 1945.... replace the word Socialism, if you want, with EU, makes no difference to my world view

Yes, well let's not get too excited about that aspect, given the fairly large degree of socialism that exists in British institutions and did so long before joining the EEC.

For a start Boris and company should do something about the fact that the Police will pull you in for a chat, and possibly a prosecution, when you have a crack at transgender's transitioning children.

But this is a good start.

Philosopher Unauthorised said...

When was the last time the UK had a socialist government? I imagine Thom thinks every government since Thatcher.

Thom is of the American school where the terms Socialist and Liberal are misunderstood and considered as insults.

Tom Hunter said...

I said socialist (small "s") institutions. The NHS being the prime example.

The last time there was a real socialist government was probably Atlee's at the end of WWII, in the sense of a government determined to nationalise as much industry as possible, short of the full communist dream of 100%.

Recent governments since Thatcher have accepted the existence of things like the NHS (as did Conservative governments before her), while also accepting the privitisations of huge amounts of previously nationalised industries and businesses.

The "mixed model" so typical of much of the Western world, with the Conservatives and Labour preserving both socialist and capitalist aspects of the nation.

But you can still discuss and debate socialist ideas in theory and practice, both present and future, within a Western democracy.

Philosopher Unauthorised said...

I guess that's the same Thatcher who, as her time as PM was drawing to an end, attempted top have herself installed as head of BCCI. She knew how corrupt it was and was determined to get her slice. When the whole thing exploded, she still had the gall to visit co-founder Sheikh Zayed to tell him she thought he had been "badly mistreated".

Is that the "mixed Model" Thom?

Or maybe you meant the mixed model where "In terms of high-end product influx into the United States, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets; say in Dubai, and certainly within our project on Soho and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia". Donald Trump, The Lesser.

Tom Hunter said...

I'll take Seppo giving up on his previous line of argument and unloading a new one for $1, Alex.