Wednesday, May 29, 2019

USA: Hey, where the white men at?

The Associated Press, in their role as Democrat Operatives With Bylines, recently had a Tweet and a related article about the Democrat Party thinking about their voting base, in particular, White men.
That’s left Democrats wondering whether the nominee should be someone who can cut deep into Trump’s base, picking off large numbers of working-class whites, whether it’s enough to win over affluent, college-educated, suburban men and whether the party is moving too far left to win them both. 
“The white male vote is indispensable, it’s a part of any winning coalition,” said Democratic pollster Ronald Lester, who worked for Hillary Clinton’s campaign in 2016. He noted that successful national Democrats perform well with white men, and that includes Barack Obama, whose strength among white men in the Rust Belt helped fuel his White House victories in 2008 and 2012.
AP being who they are, the article does not really think about that further, but simply talks about the GOP steadily losing college-educated white males and grabbing some examples of men who say they will likely vote Democrat. Ignored by AP were the huge number of comments on their Twitter blog, which were a lot more revealing:
- Have you tried calling them racist? I hear that tests well. 
- That bridge is already burned 
- Good luck with that. After you beat me and call me all kinds of names. You want my vote? I don't think so. 
- But they hate us, they tell us that all the time. Apparently, we are some damn boogeyman to them. No thanks.
- Democrats can forget about white male votes because they forgot about our interests a long time ago. 
Perhaps the Democrat Party could take a look at some of their other voters, like Dr. Catlyn Collins, an assistant professor of Sociology and of Women, Gender, and Sexuality studies​ at Washington University in St. Louis, and author of a book titled Making Motherhood Work: How Women Manage Careers and Caregiving. Recently Ms Collins drove past a road construction site and had a bit of chat with one of the crew:

If she thinks this is a problem, perhaps she should have aimed her well-educated mind at the company employing this poor schlub. But as this comment at the Gunfree Zone blog pointed out, that's not what this was really about:
This is why so many on the Right get accused of being anti-academic.  Because this is the shit that we see that makes us hate academia. 
I am proud of my Ph.D.  Mine is in engineering, and I walk a factory floor every day in composite toe boots.  I don’t act like I am better than the people in assembly.  I am there to help them by solving problems with my skills 
This type of academic elitism is all about reminding the non-academic non-elite about their place. 
Think about this guy.  He works hard in the cold rain of the Midwest right now.  At the end of the day he might go to a bar with some coworkers and have a beer, every part of his body hurting.  That is the kind of toxic masculinity that this professor raves against.
As numerous Left commentators noted, Donald Trump’s election in 2016 was due in large part to White voters finally acting like….. an Identity Politics group. White voters thinking was, “why not us?" And all the abusive screaming from the Left about how their "White Privilege" means they're not allowed to think this way, has not only had no effect, it reminds these voters, particularly white men, that their traditional, working-class left-wing parties, are increasingly filled with people who utterly despise them.

Thus it is no surprise to find that the early stages of the Democrat nomination for President in 2020 are being dominated by one of the Stalest, Palest and Malest of old, white men in America.

Who me?

That's Joe Biden, currently leading the Democrat nomination race from twenty-plus contenders, and by substantial margins.

In any other context this would be extraordinary. Biden is a hopeless, brainless old hack. A two-time loser in these nomination races. A swamp-creature buried in Washington D.C. politics for almost fifty years since first being elected to the US Senate in 1972. A gaffe-prone, 76-year old politician so dumb that in the 1988 nomination race he plagiarised the speeches of the almost equally hopeless British Labour leader, Neil Kinnock. A man with private and public behaviours that are distinctly disturbing in the age of #MeToo. So how is he winning so far?

The explanation lies in there being three "lanes" in the Democrat Party at present.

First, the traditional, hard-line Old Left - which sees Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren competing.

Second, the Woke, Identity Politics New Left, in which the vast majority of candidates are competing.

Third is the "moderate" lane; the part that's not Woke, not into Identity Politics, and not that keen on vast, new government schemes beyond what already exist in the form of the troubled Social Security and Medicare/Medicaid programs. The lane that includes the large majority of those white male voters forming Trump's base, which the Democrats are desperate to "cut deep into".

Despite all his handicaps, Joe Biden finds himself all alone in this lane, and his success so far has intimidated other candidates from attacking him on his record, which is otherwise a target-rich environment. Biden is rapidly disavowing most of these past positions to reduce his exposure, as well as reducing his exposure overall, but it's very early days and I can't see him escaping these attacks as the field narrows.

And this is where it starts to become fun. Given the concerns raised about the Democrats getting enough of that "indispensable" white male vote, Biden has on his side the knowledge that such voters are comfortable with him and very uncomfortable with his opponents, plus knowing that it's a narrow front to attack him without also attacking them and burning them off, as Hillary did with her infamous "Deplorables" remark.

Either way I'm looking forward to the prospect of one of these Woke Democrats destroying Biden on their favourite fields of battle and then crashing and burning in the General Election - or sitting there pulling their punches and grinding their teeth in months of slow-burning anger as they support Biden trying to defeat the Evil Orange One.

Can you imagine what it will be like to support a person who represents much of what you despise because he's up against a person who represents everything you despise - and all because you need the votes of many of those you despise. It's a delicious concept.


Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

Spun with all the charm, comprehension and perseverance of a Bulgarian boiler salesman.

The average age of Members of the 115th Congress is among the highest of any Congress in recent U.S. history. 62 years, Trump is 72, and why are you banging on about old white are one yourself as you must be in your middle sixties.

At least the British may have a chance to clean up their politics if this trial sets a precedent on "fake news" more fibs.

Snowflake said...

Note how Tommy studiously ignores the elephant in the room? He expends enormous amounts of time expounding on the purported evils of dem Democrats, but will he ever reveal in its unadulterated glory, his opinion of the actual President of the United States and the the GOP? He can’t do it, so he plays extended and bilious whataboutism. Expect (much, much) more of this.

Tom Hunter said...

At some stage I'll do an analysis of Trump's chances of winning in 2020, though the fact that throughout 2015/2016 I predicted he'd lose, despite all of Hillary's flaws, has to be taken into account. But there's little point until the Democrat clown show has produced a nominee, which is where it gets real.

And regarding his "awfulness", I note that aside from his personality, in practice he's governed in terms of policies, much as any other GOP President would have, but there will also be more on that.

you must be in your middle sixties.
The FSB Public Information department has a compulsory retirement age of 60.

And all this because you long ago made a series of assumptions that you regard with ironclad certainty, in this case how old my mother must have been when I was born and therefore when I was born.

And is it an "8" or a "5" my little Birther?

Now would either of you like to contribute your own thoughts on the Democrat race?

What you think their challenges are; who you think might make it through to be nominated; whether you think the White Male voter even matters to them this round, and so forth.

These are all interesting debates to have and this is a forum to have them. Looks like you don't want to or are unable to.

Though on that last I should embrace the healing power of and.

Paddy Pearse said...

The Trump Organization is a criminal entity and investigations into the president’s finances will lead to his political downfall, when he is revealed to be “not the billionaire he said he was, just another scumbag.

Tom Hunter said...


I don't know why I keep giving free advice to my ideological opponents but...

... you need to realise that all those sorts of accusations failed to prevent him being elected in 2016.

But obviously you think doubling down on this approach will work in2020: second time's the trick and all that.

Paddy Pearse said...

Not wot I think, Tommy.

Them's the words of Steve Bannon. Remember him? The intellectual giant who inflicted Trump on the US and now can't get far away enough from the steaming pile of turd he created.