Friday, May 10, 2019

Friday's Fulminations

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12 comments:

Andrei said...

The Immortal Regiment

Tom Hunter said...

@Andrei

I saw this a few months ago in an interesting BBC documentary on "The World's Busiest Cities", where they looked at Moscow and one of the British journos joined in this march.

You can confirm, but apparently this practice of people marching with placards showing photos and details of their relatives who fought in the war, is a fairly recent phenomena and appears to have just sprouted up from the population itself as an idea rather than any state suggestion, which is great if true.

I hope it catches on elsewhere, including for NZ Anzac Day parades here as an addition to the tradition of wearing medals.

David said...

Yep, let's turn a day meant to mourn and remember loss into one huge arse fucking party where we celebrate war, death, destruction, rape, the murder of civilians ... oh, hang on, we've already done that.

Morons the fucking lot of you.

David said...

Final Australian Government election ad.

Andrei said...

Yes Tom - it began in Tomsk about 10 years ago and has become a feature of Victory Day throughout the world.

Some people in New Zealand wear their ancestors medals, which is similar but the photos and St George's Ribbons are far more powerful reminder.

No family in Russia came through that war unscathed

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

The Immortal Regiment was doomed from the moment of its birth," prominent blogger and former Duma Deputy Igor Yakovenko wrote on May 10. "The likelihood that the authorities would tolerate an independent grassroots movement that was becoming national and even international was precisely zero. The transformation of a grassroots initiative into a state ritual and part of the quasi-religious cult of 'victory' began already in 2014.... That was the end of the human story of the Immortal Regiment and the beginning of the story of a state ritualistic cult.

In Moscow state functionaries have been handing out photos on sticks to anyone who does not have one and Russian NGO's in developing countries have been promoting the march by offering food etc after. They even had Zambian kids dress up as WW2 Soviet soldiers.

It's as spontaneous and authentic as the Munich beer festival.

Chunters hopes for ANZAC day leave me bemused.

Andrei said...

Good for you Egbut - you didn't provide a link but it turns out you are quoting from Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty a CIA propaganda outlet.

Of course they hate the fact that Russians feel justifiably proud about the role their forefathers played in defeating Fascism in Europe - in fact did most of the heavy lifting during that conflict while the USA stood on the sidelines until the Nazi defeat was inevitable.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Andrei, you had me until the last sentence. Lets just conveniently forget who Stalin allied with at the start of the war then.

Paranormal

Psycho Milt said...

Of course they hate the fact that Russians feel justifiably proud about the role their forefathers played in defeating Fascism in Europe...

The Germans don't seem to feel justifiably proud of the role their forefathers played in defeating communism in Europe, but then they actually learned something from WW2. Not holding out much hope that Russians will learn anything from it anytime soon, though. Victory tends to swamp any prospects for learning lessons from a conflict.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

Spare me the propaganda disguised as history lessons otherwise we will mired in the morass of the Ribbontrop/Molotov pact and the merits of the T34 tank.

It's history, long gone and finished, any lessons we learnt from that war are long forgotten otherwise we would be sitting up and saying that this is wrong. Putin's overt nationalism and Trumps incessant "rallies" ...all reminiscent of Hitlers rise to power.

Along with a sophisticated propaganda machine and control of the media including the internet we certainly should be worried about events in Russia......still at 97 murdered journalists, Vladdy must be running out of critics.

Bessmertny Polk (literally Immortal Regiment) is a Russian-registered propagandist non-governmental organization. It was founded by three Russian journalists in the town of Tomsk in 2011. Its original goal was to collect information about members of the armed forces and organize events to honour war veterans.

After Russian aggression against Ukraine was unleashed, the organization became a propagandist tool and began to organize its events with the focus on the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) outside Russia. It now works in over 60 countries and regions. Bessmertny Polk members participate in annual marches on Victory Day on May 9, they carry photos of their family members who were war veterans, resistance fighters, prisoners of concentration camps, survivors of sieges, and persons born in time of war. The organization also keeps a memorial log of their members' family stories on its website.

After Russian aggression against Ukraine was unleashed, the organization became a propagandist tool and began to organize its events with the focus on the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) outside Russia. It now works in over 60 countries and regions. Bessmertny Polk members participate in annual marches on Victory Day on May 9, they carry photos of their family members who were war veterans, resistance fighters, prisoners of concentration camps, survivors of sieges, and persons born in time of war. The organization also keeps a memorial log of their members' family stories on its website.

After Russian aggression against Ukraine was unleashed, the organization became a propagandist tool and began to organize its events with the focus on the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945) outside Russia. It now works in over 60 countries and regions. Bessmertny Polk members participate in annual marches on Victory Day on May 9, they carry photos of their family members who were war veterans, resistance fighters, prisoners of concentration camps, survivors of sieges, and persons born in time of war. The organization also keeps a memorial log of their members' family stories on its website.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

Wow...even my ancient Mac is irate....three times for emphasis.

Anonymous said...

Make that 98.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7013975/Journalist-dies-mysterious-motorbike-accident-days-criticising-Russian-authorities.html