Thursday, April 18, 2019

FUNNY THAT

So the gummit, having milked it for all it's worth, has now lowered the national threat level from High to Medium.

Funny that.

28 comments:

Noel said...


"So the gummit, having milked it for all it's worth, has now lowered the national threat level from High to Medium."

Combined Threat Assessment Group of
New Zealand Security Intelligence Service
Government Communications Security Bureau
New Zealand Defence Force
Civil Aviation Authority/Aviation Security Service
New Zealand Police
Department of Corrections
Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade

Have recommended to the Government that they reduce the threat level from high to medium.

The Veteran said...

Yes Noel because the murderous antics of a lone wolf crazy behind bars never warranted that ... Department of Corrections ... WTF.

And certain RSA luminaries said 'Me Too'.

Noel said...

Whatever!

Gerald said...

On the plus side the Police can gets some well earned R and R.

David said...


Threat Level Probable.

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

Obviously Veteran and Gravedancer have not learned from the London experience where one lone wolf crazy initiated two other lone wolf crazies who were not linked. If the London lone wolf crazies had the same access to semi auto firearms, instead of kitchen knives, as Tarrant had then it would have been a bloodbath like CHC.

The Veteran said...

Hmmmmmmm Egbut ... your comment is somewhat at odds with your earlier April 14, 2019 9:17 PM comment on another post. Creating happy mischief again are we?

Lord Egbut Nobacon said...

To much like hard work trying to find that post, link please, however time and reflection alter perceptions and information. Just in case you were thinking I meant Jihadi's, I wasn't.......https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/global-terrorism-index-farright-attacks-increase-overall-deaths-fall-institute-for-economics-peace-a8667031.html

RE: this post....am I right?

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... go to https://nominister.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-empire-strikes-back.html

You were first up.

Snowflake said...

The “Veteran” is alleging or insinuating without evidence that the threat level was elevated as some sort of political stunt. But he doesn’t provide a rationale or a method or any proof. That my friends, is the mark of a partisan wanker. You’re not a partisan wanker are you “Veteran”? The SLG really has you rattled eh? How does that feel? Scared by a “silly little girl”? What does that make you?

The Veteran said...

Flake ... crap. From the Police ... "we have no credible intelligence regarding the likelihood of any further attack".

The SLG is indeed riding high but scared never because what goes round comes around ... it's called democracy. BTW ... how's your 10,000/1,000/300 Kiwiflop homes by June going? 74 completed to date (but not all sold) ... 72 days and counting.

Snowflake said...

Why don’t you actually come out and say clearly what you are alleging? Too scared? Don’t be so timid. Unless you yourself know you’re simply making shit up because your a partisan hack who’s utterly petrified that his team of clowns are getting a pasting. What I like about this is how your oh so clever sobriquet “Silly Little Girl”, which you are too afraid to use, has come back and bitten you on the arse. Why are the Nats so pathetic though?

Gerald said...

I believe Noel showed it.
Its the CTAG that determines the threat level and advises the Government who choose or not to choose to react. Actually it's a change that the PM is actually listening to it's advisers for once.
Annoying that bias from some in the Coalition is not a factor in the Royal Commission,
Police analysis is but one part of the final assessment.
Corrections analysis had shown in the past to be useful
Something that Veteran appears to having some difficulty understanding.

The Veteran said...

Flake ... "scared". Go down that meme and I'll respond by saying not as scared as your girl was in caving into WRP on something she really truly, truly. truly believed in.

Meanwhile your erstwhile buddy NRT uses the word 'coward' rather than scared. I couldn't possibly comment.

Snowflake said...

Chickenshit. When’s Bridges getting rolled? That guy’s worse than Cunliffe and has the poll ratings to prove it. Collins, though, well now there’s a leader.

The Veteran said...

Flake ... can't take the heat so you change the goalposts. Figures.

For Gerald ... as for taking advice ... you forget about her 'captains call' to scupper the NZ Oil and Gas Industry. No 'advice' sought there ... all about 'virtue' signalling where virtue was a busted flush.

Snowflake said...

Yeah, Vet. Keep going buddy, you’re having an impact! The Silly Little Girl jibes are really hitting home with swing voters. Remind me, though, what were the latest poll numbers? Still waiting for your evidence that the Prime Minister instructed CTAG to up the threat level for political purposes. Man, that’s explosive, and you must know this to be true otherwise why would you insinuate it, so.... go on.

The Veteran said...

Flake ... calm down and stop misrepresenting my position. Where did I ever say the PM instructed CTAG to UP the threat level for political purposes? You can't. What I did say (and I hold to that view still) was that it was politically convenient for the government to maintain the threat level for an extended period noting always the police saying publicly that they had no credible intelligence of any ongoing threat.

Look, I know you are feeling bruised over the CGT debacle but you can take solace in the face that the sun will still come up in the morning with the Hurricanes likely to wallop the Waratahs on Saturday.

Noel said...


Where did I ever say the PM instructed CTAG to UP the threat level for political purposes?


Point but...


"So the gummit, having milked it for all it's worth, has now lowered the national threat level from High to Medium."

Anonymous said...

CTAG was set up in 2004 in response to changes in the global terrorism environment post September 11, 2001 and the Bail terror attacks in 2002.

CTAG has a six-tiered threat level system starting at negligible – where a terrorist attack, violent protest activity or violent criminal behavior is assessed to be "very unlikely".

It goes all the way up to extreme, which is assessed as when a terrorist attack, violent protest activity or violent criminal behavior is expected imminently.

CTAG is tasked with setting the threat level, and it does so independently.

But how New Zealand responds to that threat level is determined by the senior officials' advisory group for emergency situations – ODESC.

It considers the appropriate response and then makes recommendations to senior ministers, including the Prime Minister.

But each agency within CTAG is responsible for responding to the threat level.For example, the police have decided to station armed officers across the country.

Snowflake said...

So wait “Veteran” , you are saying the government told CTAG to inflate the threat level for political purposes? What do you mean when you say it was “politically convenient” if not that there is no threat and that the threat level was made up by CTAG to help the government? Stop being slimey and say what you think happened here, because it sure sounds like you are making an extremely serious allegation, which you must be able to back up right? Right? Otherwise you’re just being a tool, and you’re not a tool are you?

The Veteran said...

Isn't Google a wonderful thing.

Noel said...

Yep you should have delved in further before.The CTAG and ODESC were set up to ensure no pollies could manipulate the threat levels.

Snowflake said...

The apology is pending obviously....

Gerald said...

From Veteran? I'm guessing that is in the "when hell freezes over" basket.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

I know Snowflake is a dickhead but I thought Gerald at least understood simple English like "then makes recommendations to senior ministers, including the Prime Minister."

The decision is made by a Minister, or the Prime Minister. Like the decision on a certain East European drug dealer.

Psycho Milt said...

The decision is made by senior ministers based on the recommendations of people specifically tasked with figuring out what is the best thing to do. If anything, I'm surprised the threat level wasn't kept on high until after the various Easter and ANZAC Day celebrations, but unlike The Veteran and Adolf I don't know better than the assembled expertise making the recommendations.

Snowflake said...

Not surprisingly, Adolt has got his facts wrong (again). CTAG sets the threat level, Ministers make decisions about the appropriate response based on advice. The “Veteran” suggested that the process was being manipulated for political purposes, but has provided no evidence to support this extremely serious allegation of corruption at the highest levels of government. Now, I’m just waiting on his apology for the uninformed smear.