Friday, August 3, 2018

WHAT EXACTLY IS "FAR RIGHT"?



Imeho it sure is not Tommy Robinson. Any more than it is Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux.

Now should a MSM op ed scribe in NZ refer to our current NZ Prime Minister as "Far Left" it would be more difficult to take issue, as the Little Girl has a starring role in a Utube Video where in her farewell oration to her year as International Socialist group leader she managed to include the well accepted descriptive amongst Communists around the globe for fellow travellers, "Comrade", 14 times in a speech of only 15 minutes duration.

Why for all that is precious drop the well worn denigrative for those whose activities threaten or contravene the mores of what may well be the personal belief systems of the comentator to merely use say Free Spoech advocate or anti Islamist for Robinson instead of the vague but increasingly  "Far Right" as if that is somehow the very worst of the worst.

My understanding of exactly what Tommy Robinson has as a personal driving belief system is not clear but it was clear the authorities in The UK surely used their state sanctioned powers to over react to Robinsons anti Islam actions on a public thoroughfare outside the Leeds Court where inside a gang of "groomers "were on trial for their disgusting activities around corrupting non Muslim children for the depraved desires of other Muslim men.

Over night a UK Supreme Cout judge ruled what many who defended Robinsons right of free speech believed and the extreme poor judicial process that had Tommy convicted, sentenced and slammed up with indecent haste, was an abuse and set Robinson free on bail. Freed from a Jail he was moved to where convicted violent Islamist inmates were able to threaten Robinson leading to his requesting solitary confinement for his personal safety. The thugs were  still able to use his small access trapdoor and a vent to cast abuse and offensive matter into his cell.


18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Any links on that rant Dodger?...." The UK surely used their state sanctioned powers to over react to Robinsons anti Islam actions "................ You certainly misjudge the independence of the judiciary in the UK and are now peddling conspiracy theories and are no better than the uneducated thugs who have taken to the idea of being concentration camp guards.

I find it strange that you are willing to demonise Kiwis being deported from OZ for not being of "good character" or having minor convictions from years ago yet go out of your way to suggest that Yaxley-Lennon is a number one bloke.......in spite of his multiple convictions for assault including assaulting a policeman and mortgage fraud.......yay nice bloke. Oh and that bit about trapdoor in the cell, total bollocks and an alt right invention.

The good thing about an independent judiciary is that it corrects it's mistakes, which it has done, and the new hearing on the original charges will take place in September.......I bet you a pound to a pinch of rocking horse shit he will be back inside, sans trapdoor.

Lord Egbut

David said...

Egbut, like Walter, the OAP from Akaroa doesn’t like to reveal his sources, however I can.

Anonymous said...

These two are hardly far right in the old sense of the label. Far right nowadays is anything the left doesn't like. Facts are not a factor in labeling. I'm a white middle class conservative (and Christian to boot) so am hopelessly racist, misogynist, homophobic, Islamophobic and every other stupid label you can think of. My elder step daughter has frequently reminded me of these things while happily taking my money when its offered. Good wee socialist she is. She's job hunting again but seems to struggle at interviews. I guess that's my fault as well (for being far right) and her being an angry and rude arse with poor social skills has nothing to do with it.

3:16

Gerald said...

And not a Councillor in sight

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12100627

Psycho Milt said...

Maybe no councillors involved, but somebody opposed to freedom of speech, that's for sure. I expect those responsible for this particular egregious breach of NZ's bill of rights will never be revealed, which is a pity.

alloy said...

"Far right" is used in a very unsubtle attempt to confuse conservatives (a very broad group) with Nazis, supposedly the ultimate in Far Right.

Forgetting of course that the Nazi's were socialists who demonstrated all the traditional Socialist/Communist/Fascist traits in their pursuit and retention of power.

1. Adopt socially re-distributive policies
2. Censor and otherwise restrict public information, feed disinformation.

When it goes wrong

1. Find a scapegoat.
2. Marginalize the scapegoat.
3. Once you run out of scapegoats, start cannibalizing your own side.

Soviet Union
Nazi Germany
Post liberation Africa
etc etc.


David said...

PM, has your account been hacked? You are usually better than this.

No One's freeze peach has been denied. No one is guaranteed a platform. Being denied venue hire is not the same as being denied freeze peach.

The North American trolls are free to find alternative venues, their shit is still be spread all over the internet.

I expect those responsible for this particular egregious breach of NZ's bill of rights will never be revealed, which is a pity.

Perhaps you could enlighten us to how the BORA has been breached, and if you could read the news sites you would know that Powerstation owner Gabrielle Mullins is the person who has committed this act of civility.

Psycho Milt said...

"Far right" is used in a very unsubtle attempt to confuse conservatives (a very broad group) with Nazis, supposedly the ultimate in Far Right.

Really? Are you sure you want to claim that white supremacists are just part of the broad conservative church?

Psycho Milt said...

PM, has your account been hacked? You are usually better than this.

I do know better than to try and game a principle, for sure. Because principles can't be gamed any more than a mountain or an ocean can. A person might feel like their semantic skills have turned their enthusiasm for suppressing others' speech into something compatible with freedom of speech, but they're only fooling themselves.

Being denied venue hire is not the same as being denied freeze peach.

Only to the extent that putting a "Whites only" sign outside your restaurant is not the same as racial discrimination, ie yes it is exactly the same thing.

The North American trolls are free to find alternative venues

And if you put a "Whites only" sign outside your restaurant, the darkies are free to find alternative venues. That wouldn't make you any less of a racist.

Perhaps you could enlighten us to how the BORA has been breached...

It forbids discrimination on the basis of political opinion.

...Gabrielle Mullins is the person who has committed this act of civility.

And was pretty clear about having canned their booking because she didn't like their political views. More relevant is what prompted her sudden change of mind - that's what I doubt we'll ever find out.

David said...

Nazi Barbie Lauren Southern pwned by Melburnians.

https://www.news.com.au/national/victoria/news/lauren-southern-insults-melbourne-city-fires-back/news-story/820aeccdc9e8f0ddf936b878c195a81a

David said...

Bullfuckingshit Milt.

And if you put a "Whites only" sign outside your restaurant, the darkies are free to find alternative venues.

That is discrimination against a class of people based on an attribute they neither chose nor can change. Southern chose to be a racist POS and can stop being a racist POS any time she chooses.

Some views are repugnant to society and are to be condemned at all times. Should I be permitted to enter a Catholic church and quiz the Parish Priest on his pedophilia?




Anonymous said...

"To answer Dodgers question, What exactly is far right"?....I'm afraid I can't show photo's of these usually wealthy and reclusive people but I can show a video of the far right drones.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6796269/tommy-robinson-protester-swears-muslim-bus-driver-london/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/video/news/pro-tommy-robinson-protestors-block-buses/

After ensuring that her passengers left the bus safely the middle aged Muslim lady bus driver returned to her seat and faced down the sweaty oafs by smiling sweetly and rolling her eyes. Driving a double decker in London traffic is no mean feat...a lot respect to the driver......a true Brit as the papers said.

"By your followers shall ye be known"........

Lord Egbut


Psycho Milt said...

That is discrimination against a class of people based on an attribute they neither chose nor can change. Southern chose to be a racist POS and can stop being a racist POS any time she chooses.

So what? That's not a distinction that's built into the BoRA, and isn't a feature that should be built into it, unless you want to allow people to discriminate against socialists, Muslims, transsexuals and a shitload of other kinds of people who could choose not to be the thing you don't like if they wanted to.

Some views are repugnant to society and are to be condemned at all times.

At all times? The views that are repugnant to society change over time, and by location. That's the whole point of basing human rights on general principles that reject the relevance of popularity or unpopularity.

Anonymous said...

Psycho........This has gone far beyond an individuals right to free speech. They are missionaries backed by alt right organisations with deep pockets. The same people who are backing Dodgers favourite boy next door, young Tommy. The voices are different but the script is the same, generated not by an individual but by a single corporate.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-free-prison-release-contempt-court-farright-edl-a8472796.html

Well done NZ......send them packing.

Lord Egbut

Psycho Milt said...

The BoRA doesn't have anything in it about "unless you're being funded by an unpleasant political organisation," and nor should it.

Anonymous said...

Not a registered political org, a movement funded by the extremely wealthy.....very dangerous. Just google Alt right funding.

David said...

The final word.

Max said...

Psycho Milt I salute your principled stand, while I may not agree with your politics. Only by hearing and understanding opposing views can they be defeated or accommodated.

Sadly so many from Left and Right have become fanatical and driven by emotion and identity politics. What happened to respectful disagreement, openness to changing ones position or finding common ground for the sake of a better future. The intolerance and open hostility we increasingly see will not end well and is a large backward step for civilisation.