Wednesday, May 9, 2018

SOME EFFLUENT IS BEDDERER.



My recent criticism of a beyond the fringe solution for the Akaroa waste water disposal brought some not very surprising push back.

In the light of Posy Parker's intemperate comments, reported in media, that cow numbers per Hectare might need to be capped and even reduced, in the flawed and totally dopey "Swimable River"  moronic 'lets kick all farmers and horticulturists' campaign.

For a starter for ten, just what numbers of New Zealanders might ever have an urge to ever head off to a pond in a waterway for a freekin swim?

For years now OPM spenders have built ever larger and expensive Aquatic centers complete with paddling pools, diving pools, water slides, life guards, and water so safe you might swim in it. Then some nice person brown bombs it and the water is all flushed and replaced.  Monuments to stupidity that will never cover running costs let alone any capital cost recovery. Yet citizens still drown themselves in an increasing drowning toll, year on year.  School and smaller community pools close because of the economics.

Then there is the continual embarrassment of local government failures resulting in "Unswimable Beaches" from sewerage contamination of still popular open sea areas near many of our larger metropolitan areas.  Now perhaps Posy, the suggestion from some cows meeting recently, that maybe there should be a cap and sinking lid on numbers of wannabe politicians masquerading as control freaks, is not so far from the truth.

Now. back to the hair raising idea that pumping waste water from Akaroa into the ground under pressure to below sea level is viable.   Posy has concerns that cows on the plains crapping and weeing on pastures somehow threatens Canterbury's ground water, at what ever number of cows per hectare,  congregating or standing on nature's filter of gravels many meters above the aquifiers.

The main constant that continues with opposition to all options for disposing of the treated waste from Akaroa comes from the local Maori and their Kaik Marae a few kms south of the supposedly disgusting treatment plant at Greens Point where following a combination of screening, agitation and primary treatment the resulting "porridge" is piped offshore into the harbour.  Now, I can see that in these enlightened times, that process might need a review and one solution would be to pipe that partly treated effluent further south  to the heads where the massive flushing effect of the tides will result in such minor effects being not worthy of complaint.

Of course there is an elephant in the room with Ngai Tahu opposition to any suggestion of others' poo ending in their Harbour threatening their Kai Moana.  When there is a Hui, a Tangi, or any of the commercial opportunities that are increasingly a part of Marae activities, no points for guessing what happens to the effluent generated by numbers at times in the thousands.  The deposits  of those "visitors' are flushed into grossly overloaded Septic systems designed many moons ago for a small population of Maori living on their ancestral lands and well before the present day cultural and commercial opportunities arose.

Anecdotal responses from fishermen and tourist operators using the harbour, indicate whenever a large gathering occurs at The Kaik,  the open sewer delivers untreated waste direct into the sea leading to algal blooms, effluent stench and sea lettuce growth rates drifting around the mouth of  the very small creek,  into the adjacent sea.

It is an embarrassing facet of marae life, never making an appearance in any meetings or discussions around Akaroa waste water disposal, as such  comment would be offensive and therefore forbidden.

15 comments:

Snowflake said...

Oh I see. Firstly, there is no physical limit to the number of cows you can have per hectare, because moronic. Second, you should be able to dump cow shit in the waterways because it’s a good anti-drowning measure, and there are (communist) swimming pools. Third people do poohs, therefore environmental regulation is hypocritical. You should stand for Parliament.

Anonymous said...

You make some great points Grave. I am left pensive. I think what you are describing is urban bred ideology being imposed on reality (and failing terribly!)

Cadwallader

George said...

The continental idea of cows in barns has arrived.
Now, it's cows to the number of square meters.
And towns along rivers still discharge their partly treated sewerage into said waterways with impunity

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

GD

You seem not to understand Maori shit doesn't stink.

Snowflake said...

What are these great points, Cockwolloper? Go on, elucidate old chum. I only ask because it reads like excreted alphabet soup. I think he’s saying townies bad mkay! But you seem to think it’s enlightening, so away you go...

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Such intellect, Snowflake. Such eloquence.

Snowflake said...

I know right? It’s hard dumbing things down to your level though. Let me know if you’re struggling to keep up.

gravedodger said...

Poor demented Snowflake, Posy was not talking about cows per Ha he was intending to use nutrient calculations.
If Snowflke is aware of a dumping of bovine effluent into a waterway there are ample opportunities for a protest to his relevant regional local authority.
Such disconnect about how stocking rates influence water degradation is revealing.

There are far more cases of Beach polution from fecal matter both man made and from birds than any provable incidents from farming operations that are now being revealed to be making remarkable strides in environmental polution avoidance. Riparian Plantings, effluent ponds treating shed effluent before sustainable distribution and Fonterra leading the way with carrot and stick backup with threats of refusing to pick up milk from non compliant farms.

Now about the Onuku Marae protesting existing effluent disposal for Akaroa while their disgusting discharging from at times thousands of visitors untreated expressions of relief direct into the harbour leaving a toxic polution drifting north and south with the tides.
Did you have anything worth contributing on that matter.

My apologies to Cadwallader for the personal attack so scurrilously embarked on but I left it up as a commentary on how the demented can expose their total absence of intellect and clearly expressed abysmal ignorance.

Snowflake said...

Jesus you’re a retard. Th only reason farmers take any of the inadequate actions you laud is because of pressure from environmental groups. Absent pressure they would pollute with ever greater abandon. I suspect even you know this. So, the maximum number of cows per hectare is infinite because human effluent is discharged into the sea. Gotcha.

If cockwolloper can’t take a bit of ribbing about his silly handle, he’s more of a beta male loser than even the rest of you.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

I repeat:-

Such intellect, Snowflake. Such eloquence.

Update:-

Such an abusive prick.

All the farmers I know, and I know many, look after their land and its surroundings well, because the know it is in their interests to do so.

The only farmers Snowflake knows are those who farm worms on the balconies of their minuscule one bedroom grotty apartments, next door to his, twenty storeys above Karangahape Rd.

Snowflake said...

As I say, it’s got to be dumbed down for your benefit. And yeah nah, that’s why our rivers are full of cow shit and nitrates, ‘coz all the farmers you know care so much. You don’t even live here, so how the fuck would you know, Adolt?

gravedodger said...

Name some examples of waterways Snowflake or cease with the mindless drivel.

Easier to name the beaches and waterways that suffer serious degradation from urban polution that never gets called out.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7016606/Polluted-Auckland-beaches-not-safe-to-swim.

The number of cattle within those quoted recreation areas are minimal yet the beaches are declared "unswimable"


One of the few central Auckland beaches to return unsafe readings was Judge's Bay in Parnell, where high levels of bacteria saw celebrations to mark the completion of a $4.9m upgrade to the beach cancelled. Now how many cows are milked in Parnell.

Snowflake said...

Pick almost any waterway in Waikato, Northland, Manawatu, Canterbury or Southland. All degraded and getting worse due to intensive dairy farming. That’s not an exaggeration either. Use your computational machine and look it up, moron.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

I thought as much, Snowflake. You are so full of shit yourself you can't tell clean water from sewerage.

Anonymous said...

I suggest Mr or Ms (or something else) Snowflake, your "information" is a solid decade past use by date. Also, to attribute environmental degradation to dairy farming exclusively, betrays your susceptibility to political persuasion.

Cadwallader