Thursday, April 12, 2018

ON BEER

I enjoy a good lager even though my olde friend Egbut (who is quite knowledgeable in all matters beer) would have it that lager is for pussies while real ale is for real men.

So, and confining ourselves to lager please (and in my book Pilsner beer is a lager), what would you rate as the best lager you have tasted and, conversely, the worst.  

For me ... best is Turborg while the worst is anything American which can only be described as Gnat's piss (with apologies to all good Gnats).

27 comments:

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Carlton Draught on tap.

David said...

For me, beer is dependent on weather as much as anything else.

A good Pils in summer is very refreshing, there was one I enjoyed in NZ, can't recall name now, but suspect it was a Monteiths. Problem is, most Pils/Lagers are low on flavour, so I prefer a "meatier" beer, like a Coopers Pale Ale when I am in a pub or a Cricketers Arms Spearhead Pale at home. The Coopers is very cloudy with quite a bit of sediment, especially in bottles, while the CA has a lovely citrus finish.

For the colder months, it is impossible to go past Guiness on tap or a Macs Black in the bottle.

There was once a great Lager brewed by CUB in Melbourne, but the takeovers of breweries led to its demise.

Wiley Trout said...

Ceske Budvar. Beautiful grainy nose, delicate hops, rich flavour, not too gassy.

pdm said...

Given that Tui is the beer round here I prefer `normal' Tui draught beer but in the lager area do like Tiger Beer and Fiji Bitter both of which I consider to be Lagers.

Johno said...

Used to prefer lager, but have transitioned to IPA and APA... I'll still have a lager if there's no pale ales available but really, they're for kids!

Anonymous said...

Panhead Brewery
Port Road Pilsner is a very good drop
Their supercharger APA is also very good
Any of the Behemoth brewery IPA's are well worth tasting

Johno said...

Yep Epic IPA and Panhead APA my usuals.

Alan Hancox said...

After a long stint drinking lager beers, I graduated to APA beers, I like Epic ThundeR, although a classy APA is No-8 Hop Wired, although it is more expensive.

Ray said...

Speight’s draft mostly, Speights Old Dark when there is snow on the hills.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Ray

Speights must have improved since 1967. Back then it didn't even qualify as swamp water.

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy said...

You sought Egbuts opinion on beer? Egbut drinks French Syrah but draws the line at that Uc Dai Loi shiraz muck - and so he should.

I hope to get him down to Hawkes Bay this time next year to sample real SYRAH.

Anonymous said...

Veteran......I think I was referring to any lager made in the UK under licence. In the UK brewers brew beer and accountants brew lager, they manage screw up everything they touch except for Steinlager, Ushers managed to make a poor lager slightly better before it fell off the cliff.

The test of a well made lager or beer is to leave a glass on the window sill overnight and if you can drink it without pulling a face then the ingredients used are good. Chilling a well made beer in an ice bath destroys the taste completely but that what the makers of cheap lager rely on.

Willy Trout is on the ball Budvar Budweiser, brilliant lager and Marstons Oyster stout on a hand pull pump makes Guinness taste like lager.

I have a small collection of Trappist beers from Belgium one of which weighs in at 13% ABV ..........not a quaffing beer.

Tinker.....we will see, last man standing.

Lord Egbut

pdm said...

Tinker/Egbut - perhaps as a Hawkes Bay lad through and through I could referee. Could even get showmethetaxcuts along to help in that department.

Adolf - remember those days when we used to have a half and half (draught beer and stout) during the winter months.

Johno said...

Also honorable mention to Hallertau Number 2

David said...

half and half (draught beer and stout)

You mean a Black and Tan? My old man introduced me to that when I was 16, haven't had one since I was 17. :-)

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Many years ago, during a visit to Wales, I enjoyed a few pints of Worthington's Cream Flow Draught Bitter.

It was wonderful stuff and I haven't seen it since. Whoever it was in Australia who proclaimed Pommy beer to be slops was taking crap.

Paranormal said...

When the bottoms fallen out of your world, drink Speights, and watch the world fall out of your bottom.

Apologies Ray, something I remembered from a few decades back...

Anonymous said...

The Cream flow beer fad lasted about six months in the UK. It is really nasty stuff infused with nitrogen and has as much to to with beer as KFC has to do with good food. Why aren't I surprised that it met Adolf's high standards.

Lord Egbut

pdm said...

David thank you - couldn't remember the black and tan name.

Adolf the main trouble I found with English Beer in particular was that they drink it warm. Also I remember when over there in 1977 having my cousin who was working in a London Pub tell me not to drink the Mild because they tipped all of the slops into it.

Johno said...

If beer is going to be infused with anything then nitrogen would be one of the least harmful elements in existence to use, wouldn't it? CO2 would change the acidity hence flavour but nitrogen is inherently undetectable (I'm guessing).

Hving said that, making beer sudsy sounds like a bad idea.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Good old Ledgut. Full of bullshit again.

From Wiki:-

"...Bass used the Worthington brand for its principal keg bitter offerings from the 1960s onward, first as Worthington E, then as Worthington Best Bitter from the 1980s, and Worthington Creamflow from the 1990s to the present."

1990 to 12018 is a very long six months but not for know alls.

Nick K said...

I had some barley beer a few weeks ago and it was exceptional.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Help me out here Nick. Unlike Legbut I don't know everything about everything and I thought most, if not all, beer is made from barley.

So what is 'barley beer'?

B Whitehead said...

I tend to go for either Turborg or Carlsberg as my preference, but I'm quite used to Tui after years of helping out with haymaking.

Anonymous said...

Then Wiki is wrong on a couple of points. Worthington "E" is NOT a keg beer, it is a live draught beer delivered in barrels NOT kegs.

Keg beer is an abomination that arrives pumped full of CO2 and/or nitrogen mix. Cheap to make, transport and connect the big commercial breweries love it. If you can find a creamflow pump in pub these days it is a rarity. It was just another attempt by the big brewers to force real ale out but the opposite happened. After a few nitrogen induced hangovers and a million quid in advertising it faded away and never gained a foothold. Barley beer is known as Barley wine and is an old ladies sipping beer.......yes Barley 100% malt.

I trust have got all that Walter.

Lord Egbut

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Ledgut

Here's another correction you'll have to make to Wiki.

"Creamflow is the third highest selling ale in the United Kingdom, as well as the highest selling ale in Wales, and is brewed in Burton"

Never gained a foothold eh?

They are bloody lucky they haven't got an idiot who thinks he knows everything doing their marketing.

Anonymous said...

No, It's the marketing boys who are fiddling with with Wiki to fool idiots like you.

The UK beer market is so diverse with so many brands and so many regional breweries it is impossible to discover who sells the most. It can only be divided into Real Ale, Lager and Keg beers of which creamflow is one of many and made by several breweries. I say made 'cos it ain't brewed. Seven pubs in my town and only one Creamflow pump (John Smiths) amongst the lot.

Lord Egbut