Tuesday, March 20, 2018


The Ministry of Social Development have just announced the new benefit rates to apply from 1 April 2018 .... you can access the information here.

Included  in the schedule is this little doozy under NZ Superannuation and Veteran's Pensions ...

World War 1 veteran's lump sum payment on death ... $15,040.46.

Just how much effort did it take by some peon(s) to work out this inflation adjusted sum since, to the best of my knowledge, the last NZ veteran of that conflict, Bright Williams, died fifteen years ago ... and MSD would have known that.

Bureaucracy is a wonderful thing.


Adolf Fiinkensein said...

You're wrong Vet. A number of them are still alive. They work at MSD.

Johno said...

LOL, I bet there's a whole department dedicated to WW1 veterans' affairs and welfare, complete with staff, office space, budget etc.

And they're all quietly hoping nobody notices that they have nothing to do! Straight off the set from 'Gliding On'.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible the payment is still available to surviving spouses on their death?

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Is it remotely possible there are surviving spouses?

The Veteran said...

Anon 6.23 ... No, the payment is for a WW1 veteran only. All other veterans are entitled to a funeral grant of $2,516.09 (subject to certain conditions) and a lump sum pymt on death of $5,965.08 ... why there was a difference between the WW1 veteran's lump sum pymt on death of $15,040.76 and the current $5,965.08 quite escapes me.

The Surviving Spouses pension is completely separate from this and is paid subject to the deceased veteran being in receipt of a War Disablement Pension at the (old) 70% rate or higher.

Noel said...

Goes back to the change in 1990's when Veteran's Pensions were introduced and replaced the former War Veteran's Allowance, War Pension, War Service Pension and Economic Pension.

It was within the Veterans allowance that the lump sum payment was identified.
If you had a Veterans allowance prior to 1992 you can pick up the higher rate.

The Veteran said...

Noel ... sorry, don't understand. Why should the WW1 veterans lump sum pymt on death be at a higher rate than that for all other veterans.

Doesn't stack up given that NZ servicemen were involved in the Armenien-Azerbaigani War of 1918-20 post WW1 so presumably they weren't eligible for the grant.

Noel said...

Not just WW1 eligible.
Why? Perhaps another example of the RSA taking their eye off the ball during the amalgation of pensions?
Not surprising given their prolonged resistance to the RMA SOPs with its abiity to support so many before they kicked it.

The Veteran said...

Noel ... the RSA has taken their eye off the ball in many things over the years.