Wednesday, August 2, 2017

OF COURSE IT IS A LEGIT QUESTION.



Ex NZ test cricket opener  reincarnated as an infotainment host asked the newbie if she had changed her plans for a family,  has been widely excoriated for venturing into forbidden territory by asking Adern had she changed course.

Well Ms lovely choppers you had no qualms raising that matter in a glossy buildup to a move sometime in the future.
 
Now you are asking NZ to give you the top job, such a massive alteration to your domestic arrangements is fairly pertinent particularly for voters who see such a responsibility as a priority in life for the best out come for the poor little bugger  whatever its circumstances.

Then again an ex leader of the quasi communist outfit with the innocuous title International Union Of Socialist Youth may well see a bunch of agents caring for all the spawn of the "leaders" as appropriate I guess.

Strange she had Crim hugger Deputy Dog defend her in this matter.

22 comments:

Psycho Milt said...

I don't recall anyone asking Bill English or John Key about what effect children would have on their ability to be Prime Minister. That's because only sexists ask that fucking question, and being sexists they don't ask it of men. So, yeah, what a sexist shit that guy Richardson is - I'd have found her answer satisfactory if it had been a punch in his face.

Noel said...

Don't have any time for Kevin Davis but on this occasion have to agree with him.
In this century it is a sexist unnecessary question and none of our business.

Anonymous said...

I don't recall Bill English or John Key squawking to a silly womens' magazine how they wanted to have children. Perhaps the difference? Cadwallader

gravedodger said...

What part of her little fluff pieces in Next that discussed her attitudes to raising a family were not an invitation to be relevant Milt.

Of course, should she subscribe to the moderninity that involves surrogate parenting by paid wallahs in pre school and or nursary school be an acceptable substitute, then your position is tenable.

Me, I am a bit traditional with two parents taking full responsibility for their offspring and not abdicating it to third parties.
Sort of taking personal responsibility if you will.

Of course many modern thinkers regard Parenting as not for them while they endow their fellows with their clear superiority.
Hence so many world leaders who have chosen to remain childless while the devil incarnate Trump has had the temerity to have spawn with more than one woman, oh the inhumanity, certainly a crime against the species.

I would believe that Key and English would have considered the toll that service to their country in their chosen manner could have on their offspring. FFS Rowling and Anderton had the tragedy of children taking their own lives and the way the media pursued the Key children, Max and Stephie was an abomination, but many of another political pursuasion had no qualms in involving them in their desperation to bring John Key down.

Ms Adern raised her fertility as an integral part of her slow march to lead Labour only to be confronted by the unexpected political demise of the Little one forcing her hand.

Anyone who saw the events that unfolded yesterday as a sudden apparition of fate must be a little simple.
Until the polls were aligned and the union machine was taken out of contention in the closing three months this was as expected as next Christmas.
Note the Cheshire Cat "Robbo" in many frames, he has his wish, the only thing that could go awry now will be a victory on Sept 23rd for a resurgent Labour who will come to power with an unconvicted fraudster and a wrinkly old curmudgeon with an agenda far more embedded than that of Adern in the Cabinet.
Then the queer will have to reset but he is comparitively young enough.
Alf as first thingy now that will ignite the media especially with his clear reluctance in the pub that night when the duplitious toad claimed he "Alf couldn't make it" only to have that deception destroyed by Alf himself crossing the shot with a jug in hand.

Allan said...

She is still just a bimbo with no life experience. For god's sake does working in a fish and chip shop give you the required experience to run a country??? I don't think so!,, An empty vacuous vessel with nothing to offer whatsoever. Long may she remain in opposition as that would be the best thing for New Zealand's long term future.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

GD, it won't need a victory to sink the porky poofter. Just a party vote of over 30%.

Psycho Milt said...

What part of her little fluff pieces in Next that discussed her attitudes to raising a family were not an invitation to be relevant Milt.

What part of John Key's little fluff pieces about his kids in no end of magazines, newspapers web sites, TV shows and what-have-you were not an invitation to ask him if having kids would interfere with him being PM, Gravedodger?

Me, I am a bit traditional with two parents taking full responsibility for their offspring and not abdicating it to third parties.
Sort of taking personal responsibility if you will.


"Traditional" is the woman taking responsibility for their offspring, not "two parents" - that's why sexist shits like Richardson ask women what effect children would have on their job but don't ask men the same question.

Psycho Milt said...

For god's sake does working in a fish and chip shop give you the required experience to run a country???

Does being a currency trader? (John Key)

Or a public servant? (Bill English)

I don't know what the qualifications for running a country are. According to the media and (apparently) a shitload of voters, the essential qualification is being relaxed and comfortable when talking to journalists - by that standard, Ardern is as qualified as Key was.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Good Grief Milt. here I am agreeing with you two days in a row.

Ask Pauline Hanson about fish and chips and then have a look at how many votes she has peeled away from that idiot Turnbull.

Allan said...

Guys you have it wrong. Pauline Hanson "owned" her fish & chip shop and proved her business ability and organisational skills by making a living off it and selling it as a going concern. John Key made successful decisions under extreme pressure and Bill English has proven himself as a steward of the finances of the country. Adrenaline is still an empty vessel with none of these abilities or experience. She and hr ilk are incapable of governing this country.It would be an absolute disaster for NZ.

Psycho Milt said...

Ask Pauline Hanson about fish and chips...

Exactly - there isn't some ideal CV for the job of running a country. For fuck's sake, we used to let people do it just because their dad had done it - there really are no particular qualifications necessary, just nous. And if we were going to develop a list of qualifications, I'd put "made it big as a currency trader" high on my list of negative, do-not-want features.

Anonymous said...

Yup....now we are the worldwide plonkers...... https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/aug/02/unacceptable-new-zealands-labour-leader-asked-about-baby-plans-six-hours-into-job

Lord Egbut

Psycho Milt said...

Farkinell, just watched the clip of Ardern smacking Richardson down - I almost felt sorry for him. Almost.

The same page has this gem:

When he defended himself, she asked: "Would you ask a man if they are likely to have kids in the future?"

He said yes.


Ha ha, maybe your grandma believes you, you lying piece of shit, but I doubt anyone else does.

Johno said...

PM: "I don't recall anyone asking Bill English or John Key about what effect children would have on their ability to be Prime Minister."

That's because neither would have to endure pregnancy nor give birth. Quite simple really, would have thought anyone would have realised this.

"That's because only sexists ask that fucking question,"

Yet in this article, it's all in play:

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2017/06/poll-jacinda-ardern-s-popularity-plummets.html

So ok to bring the subject up in a soppy puff piece, but not when a male brings it up.

Strange double standards on display here.

"I'd have found her answer satisfactory if it had been a punch in his face."

And thereby sums up the boorish thuggery so typical of the left.

Johno said...

The Manufactured Outrage Brigade (MOB) really do need to STFU and acquaint themselves with a few facts before they make themselves look even more foolish.

Here's the first one: Adern had made it clear that it was OK to ask her questions about starting a family.

"Richardson had said: "I think this is a legitimate question for New Zealand, because she could be the Prime Minister running this country - she has our best interests at heart, so we need to know these things. Ardern said it was acceptable to ask her those questions because she'd made it clear she would answer them."

Her objection was that it was not OK for employers to ask this of employees or prospective employees.

"Labour's new leader Jacinda Ardern has told AM Show panellist Mark Richardson his comments that employers should know women's baby plans before hiring are "totally unacceptable" in 2017."

So, let's be quite clear: it is actually OK for a white middle class male to ask St Jacinda of Ardern if she plans to have a baby.

Jessie Mulligan brought it up on The Project as well, something the MOB seem to ignore. It's OK when a leftie does it but not when a boofhead jock does.

The hypocrisy of the left makes me ill. As does the sight of condescending, paternalistic white men having to get all outraged and defensive on behalf of poor little Jacinda.


Psycho Milt said...

That's because neither would have to endure pregnancy nor give birth.

So? Pregnancy and childbirth is something thousands of NZ women "endure" in any given year, and yet somehow the country continues to function. The really time-consuming aspect of children comes after they're born, which is Bill English's and John Key's business as much as it is their wives'. And yet no-one thought to ask them how they were going to be able to do the job of PM.

Johno said...

False equivalence.

Those thousands are not the Prime Minister so no concern of ours. But if any were running a business then the business would cease or they would have to pay someone else to run it.

Ask Holly Walker - she couldn't manage it even as a back-bencher let alone Prime Minister.




pdm said...

An hour ago I heard Jacinda Adern talking to Jamie McKay `on The Country' - NewstalkZB.

He raised this question with her and she said she welcomed the discussion and realised that given her age and previous statements that it is something she knew would arise and it was a question she would not shy away from.

I thought she handled the issue very sensibly and it seems to me that it is the SJW's, feminists and other interfering do gooders driving this debate and not Jacinda Adern or most of the media for that matter.

Andrei said...

"I don't recall anyone asking Bill English or John Key about what effect children would have on their ability to be Prime Minister. That's because only sexists ask that fucking question, and being sexists they don't ask it of men."

Not at all PM - if you are training someone for a position you want them to fill that role after investing in that training - if a few months after getting an individual up to speed with their duties they take a year off for "parental leave" you are seriously out of pocket not only has your investment in that person not repaid itself but you need to train someone else and front up with the paid component of maternity leave.

There is a reason why there has historically been a division of labour between men and women - one famous example was during Gulf War one when a large number of deployed women became pregnant and had to be relieved and sent home (the exact number has not been released but it was significant)

And the NZ Navy apparently requires 25% more personnel to cater for this eventuality which occurs commonly enough (hardly surprising given that people in the forces are in their peak reproductive years)

This whole blurring of gender roles is the death knell for Western civilization and is bonkers

Psycho Milt said...

You and Richardson both need to read up on what it's legal for an employee to ask job applicants and what it isn't.

Andrei said...

"You and Richardson both need to read up on what it's legal for an employee to ask job applicants and what it isn't."

It might not be legal to ask but it is legal not to employ a young woman of child bearing age and who is to say why you made the choice not to?

That's the problem with you social "progressives" you don't live in the real world but inhabit a surreal universe where a man who cuts his dick off is a woman and a woman who takes drugs to grow a beard and gives birth is a man

We are actually talking loony tunes here

Psycho Milt said...

It's also legal not to employ a coloured person, or someone who lets slip they belong to some kind of religion. However, the fact that a lot of people are arseholes doesn't mean the rest of us should be OK with it.