Thursday, December 15, 2016


Viv Forbes at Larry Pickering has a wonderful post on the hypocrisy that accompanies those "nice eco friendly oh so green electric cars.

Of course thinking people have an understanding that merely removing the carbon from the propulsion of a vehicle and replacing it with Batteries is rank rubbish. It has been a concept for decades but unless it is heavily subsidised it fails to meet market considerations.
eg Orion account payers are subsidising charging stations at Little River on Highway 75 so  the little snowflakes can make the almost two hundred round trip to Akaroa and back in their poser look at me I'm saving the Planet morons who would fail any questionare on how such ignorance can replace all the real costs of the idiocy.

Anyway Viv says it better so can I suggest a short visit via the link above.


Psycho Milt said...

Viv Forbes appears to be severely intellectually handicapped, judging from this:

"...nature’s best solar energy battery – ancient sunshine stored in organic, energy-dense Queensland coal."

It's also worth mentioning that electric vehicles in NZ are charged mostly from renewable power generation.

It's also worth mentioning that any subsidies for electric vehicles (and good luck getting a meaningful one from a National-led government) pale into insignificance compared to the colossal subsidy we provide fossil-fuel vehicles by pushing their environmental costs onto future generations.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

What environmental costs might they be, Milt?

All that extra meat grain and milk produced because there's bit more CO2 floating around?

Drill, baby drill

Dig, baby dig

Burn, baby burn

Angry Tory said...

The good news is that Rick Perry is already committed to terminating all subsidies, incentives, government programs etc to push liberal "renewables" in favour of American coal, oil & nuclear; better still is the news that Rex Tillerson will insist that countries that want to do business with the US must cancel all those programs too; best of all is that Scott Pruitt will fire every single "climate change" advocate from the EPA - real American science only.

What's good for Exxon is good for America (real America that is, not the liberal elites)

Psycho Milt said...

What environmental costs might they be, Milt?

The ones resulting from physical reality refusing to defer to wishful thinking. There are a great many of them and they're not just environmental (eg, the costs that will result from huge numbers of people finding their own countries are becoming unlivable and trying to force their way into less-affected countries - that one will cost in terms of destroyed economies and human death, as much as anything else).

gravedodger said...

As Adolf knows all too well, Jay Weatherall's dance of death with renewables is really working out so well. How bloody typically socialist to rely on the neighbour's filthy poluting coal energy while wearing a suit of sanctimony with the failing mirage of solar and wind renewable.

That N Z is rather fortunate, indeed almost unique in our natural renewable energy from hydro electricity should not induce a sanctimonious attitude to others in the world who view clean coal energy as acceptable.

Weatherall is playing russian roulette with five chambers loaded, not one.

Angry Tory said...

"Clean Coal" energy is a liberal lie. There is no "clean coal" power plant operational anywhere that captures CO2 and there won't be for decades. The best research estimates are that it take a third to a half of a plant's energy output to clean CO2 out of the smokestack. Or you could use that energy for something useful.

There's just coal. that's fine. There's no such thing as global warming so "Dirty Coal" simply isn't a problem.
Do you think China is opening a new "clean coal" power station every day?

Psycho Milt said...

There's not only no such thing as "clean coal," there's no future for coal in power generation. This article explains why. Among the conclusions:

"Advances in research, development and commercialization of new technologies are rapid, indicating that cheaper more efficient photovoltaic cells are likely to be available within 5 years."


"Electricity storage facilities are likely to become more compact, have increased capacity and be available at a lower price within a decade as the latest battery technology is commercialized." (NB: other storage methods are discussed in the article.)


"Among the highest greenhouse gas emitters in Australia are coal fired power stations, most of which are operating beyond their design life span, making them less profitable to operate and increasingly uncompetitive with solar and wind farm generators."


"Investment in new power generators in Australia are very likely to be in renewable sources, not coal..."

Anonymous said...

On the money there Mr Milt....

Lord Egbut