Monday, October 24, 2016

THE HIGHEST POLICE MUPPET DIRECTLY INVOLVED MUST RESIGN!

Kiwiblog gives oxygen to an alleged serious misuse of police powers.

A recent afternoon meeting of supporters of voluntary euthanasia  ended and departing attendees were stopped at an apparent police 'alcohol'  checkpoint.
Before being screened or tested the mainly elderly females were asked to provide their names and produce their licence.
Up to that point the clearly misguided and power drunk officer who is responsible might have got away with the little gross misuse of police power action.
However in following days at least ten of those attending the meeting were  interviewed in  a followup visit from police.

The person directly responsible for that grossly offensive and unlawful action should be sanctioned and fired, no ifs, buts, maybes,  or any whitewash.

I am a fervent and supportive admirer of the NZ Police in their task of doing what most would never venture to do, in fact I have done unsworn work for them as a public duty ( jeez one would not do it for the money)  but this is a leap, not a step too far.

15 comments:

paul scott said...

Apparently some elderly people are importing 'Nembutal". Nembutal is a barbiturate, which we used to euthenase animals with, and when I started practice, we used it for anaesthesia.

It is apparently illegal now outside prescription.
Taken orally, in a big dose, it would lead to sleep, coma, and death.
You would not easily misuse it to a person with any taste. It has a very bitter taste.

Overseas in UK and Europe we are hearing of the Police starting to activate social policing, especially in race based tension.
It will be good if we can keep the Police away from social engineering.
Once you activate the Police to barge into peoples households on the myriad of legal reasons they have, the door is open to pretext.

Noel said...

Aw come on Dogger young people have had to put up with change from "probable cause" to "Mr Plod believes" that your neons aren't legal, your vehicle change hasn't been certified and many other obscure reasons to detain a person.

As they grow into adultbhood many won't be assisting the police when they need it.

Noel said...

http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/students/groups/osjcl/files/2012/05/Opticion

Gerald said...

Nothing untoward at all Dogger. Land Transpot Act been enforced by the officer.
Do you want him to be selective in how he applies it? Get real.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Gerald, you do not seem to recognize irony when you write. In this case the coppers appear to have enforced the act in an extremely selective way.

Gerald said...

"Police have powers of stop, search, or seizure are granted by statute in this country. And what that cop did was perfectly legal under the New Zealand Land Transport Act 1998. Under that Act, New Zealand police have an “anytime, anyplace, anywhere” power to pull a car over and check the details of the driver’s license and the ownership of the car. They have the same right to stop motorists if they want to give them a breath-alcohol screening test. They don’t need to set up a checkpoint, and they don’t need probable cause or even reasonable suspicion. They can simply stop any one at anytime."

Appears to me Doggers bitch is directed at the wrong people. One of those rare laws where the intent of the drafters is obvious.

Anonymous said...

Got breath tested early Sat arvo near home and again Sunday morning even nearer to home at 9.15am. It was just a count to five. On the second occasion my wife cringed when the policewoman asked if I was having a good day. A brief discussion ensued about wasting my time twice in two days, ignoring real crime with me finally asking the cop how the road toll was looking this year. At that point the cop gave up pretending to care about customer relations, stopped bullshitting me and we went on our way. Have a nice day. I thought I was frosty (as is usual at these checks) but wife thought I was rude - which I wasn't. I later wished I'd raised this euthanasia matter as icing on a stale cake but wife is pleased I didn't.

3:16

Noel said...

Blame Shipley. 1998 would have been under her watch.

Anonymous said...

Useless out of control blue bastards have now admitted it was a fishing trip and not really a booze exercise. Pricks. I feel sorry for the good ones.

3:16

Noel said...

Of course they are fishing trips. Every Christmas/New Year in my area guaranteed licence check. Not to see if I'm carrying it but whose moving into the area. Proof appears when you take considerable time to find it amongst the many other cards and they wave you on without waiting to see it. Also magically their KPI's are up to date.
That 1998 Transport Act the trough feeders passed has been a cracker from Police Perspective.

Gerald said...

Give a man some tools and he will use them.
"The highest Police muppet should resign"
Don't be simple Dogger, the Act will be their after your scapegoat has left.

Noel said...

Should read "theirs".

Anonymous said...

I remember the need for real suspicion of crime before the police could harass you with stops - there was no random anything in police interaction with the public. Its not that long ago - about 20 years. How quickly things change from freedom to serfdom.

3:16

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

The police have admitted they were in the wrong and have dobbed themselves in.

Idiots.

Noel said...

Anon 3:16
It's actually 18 years since the 1998 Act Was introduced.
No call for retrospective analysis by the Law Commission or the legal beagles.
Perhaps they get a kick out of been asked to present their licencses unecessariy?
Nah perhaps more about job creation?