Wednesday, September 14, 2016


For about five decades now Adolf has watched a passing parade of NZ Presbyterian and Australian Uniting Church political activists disguised as clergymen usurping their respective parish pulpits to push their particular political agenda du jour, usually in the name of social justice.

Today's cause is the treatment of illegal immigrants by the Australian authorities; the 1970s issue was the Noonkenbah shenanigans north of Perth and in NZ I well recall the thunderous warnings on the evil of man made global warming.

In all cases pulpit usurpers falsely invoke the example of Jesus Christ who, they say, was a political activist who sided with the down trodden - or words to that effect.  Of course, all the usurpers were and are lefties.

Well folks, Jesus Christ certainly was an activist but the downtrodden people he sided with were those who were down trodden upon by the established church of the day as exemplified by the Pharisees and Sadducees of the Jewish synagogues scattered about the place

The political force of the day was in fact  Rome which occupied the homelands of the Jews and Jesus was careful to avoid criticism of Rome..

There are two vivid extracts from the New Testament which make it clear that Jesus avoided getting involved in secular politics. 

The first was where he was challenged about paying gummint taxes.  His reply is famous:-  " Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's."

The second was the occasion on which he was dragged before Pontius Pilate by his enemies within the church.  Pilate was no fool and he concluded:-  "I can find no wrong this man has done."

The long and thee short of it is, there is not one shred of biblical evidence to support the notion Jesus was a political activist because, plain and simple, he was not.

These same political activists spend their lives bemoaning the declining membership of their churches, which decline is accelerated by their own dishonest tub thumping.


David said...

The long and the short of it is, there is not one shred of evidence to support the notion of Jesus.

There. Fixed it for you.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Well David I guess even you would have to admit there is much evidence for the notion of your friends Stalin, Marx and Lenin

Sixty million or so corpses, none of which rose from the dead.

Anonymous said...

The first mention of Jesus in contemporary Roman, Greek, Jewish, Egyptian or Syrian literature was eighty years after his death. Far from being a thorn in the Romans side and a resistance leader with a huge following he was a bit of a nonentity who has been hyped up by the Roman Emperor Constantine's new religion. As usual you read the wrong books Adolph.

Nosmo King

David said...

Adolf, I think you need to wait for the drugs to wear off before posting again. Do you seriously think that the provable existence of 20C despots also proves the existence of Jesus?

Come back when you've had a lie down and found some evidence.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


You are a dick. I made the point that he was NOT a thorn in the side of Rome.

Instead of all that crap you read you might one day try a look at the Bible.

Anonymous said...

David and Nosmo
Even Wikipedia has him:

By all means don't believe in God or Jesus as Son of God.
But Jesus existed as a person. You just chose not to believe so because of prejudice.

Your arguments would have more substance or impact if you also denied the historical existence of Mohammed or Confucious.


David said...

Adolf, I suspect that like me, Nosmo HAS read the Bible and its what makes us atheists. Very few Xtians i know have actually read and understood the Bible, they mostly rely on the same few verses regurgitated from Sunday School through Church to the grave.

According to your Bible, when Christ was crucified there was three hours of darkness on the Earth and yet there is no account of this in any other source.

And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook, the rocks split and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life.

An earthquake, a zombie apocalypse and not a word from any other source. Do you not think the Jews would have recorded the curtain of the temple being torn?

David said...

DrCP, since when has Wikipedia been the sole arbiter of fact?

No one knows when he was born.

No one knows where he was born.

No one knows when he was crucified.

But Jesus existed as a person. You just chose not to believe so because of prejudice.

You may be right, I do have a prejudice to only accepting facts. There is nothing factual to support the life of Jesus. If you can't show it, you don't know it.

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Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Another atheist troll takes a long holiday. It's the nearest the prick will ever get to eternal life.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


It's a pity you didn't give the same attention to 'Das Kapital'

David said...

Why's that, Adolf? Das Kapital is an economic treatise and much of Marx's critiques are correct. Perhaps you meant "The Communist Manifest" which is a much more political work.

Of course, as usual, you are either incapable of, or unwilling to, reply to the points raised above.

You stand as naked as The Emperor, no visible means of support for your fairy tales.

Anonymous said...

I'm beginning to see how the Beijing blogger works. He says something utterly puerile. A poor unfortunate is sucked into refuting the obvious with a reference or two. The Beijing blogger then insults him in rather a school boyish manner whereupon our unfortunate replies with a rather more entertaining insult and then full of righteous anger and wielding the magic censor stick our man at the top deletes his posts.

I watch, not out of interest but curiosity as to what the BB does next.

N.E. Pasfumer

Gerard said...

Cracker description.
The Beijing Blogger.
I like it better than the German cat non de plume he uses.
Oh shit he'll delete me before you see this.