Sunday, August 14, 2016


Yes freedom of speech and expression is very dear to me as a fundamental building block of civilised democratic free society.

There are more than sufficient safeguards in libel, slander, offensive behaviour, nuisance, fraud, misleading behaviour, refusing to cooperate with police and officialdom laws already that can be used to shut down debate,  already available.

Debate is ongoing in The West Island over Section 18c that is a massive suffocating device that can render holding a different opinion a serious criminal offense as columnist, blogger, wireless host and now current Sky News contributor at 1900 EST Australia, Andrew Bolt  discovered  when he was dragged before the courts for holding an opinion and voicing it.
 Sheesh a cursory visit to either of the two left wing NZ  blogs, The Standard and Martin Matyn's rubbish tips  soon reveals items that cause offense and that includes the posts by the authors.

OK I concede that standing in a crowded Theatre and yelling "Fire" or in these times "bomb" could never be sanctioned as Free Speech, however merely saying something passionately held as a belief being subject to draconian suppression laws, now that is beyond scary.

Total fairy tales to todays voters but I well remember when aspiring politicians held street corner meetings where they faced often hostile locals who certainly often held polar opposite views and were often better than the tyro polly in making a contrary argument.

Offensive behaviour because of race, colour or national or ethnic origin
(1) It is unlawful for a person to do an act, otherwise than in private, if:
(a) the act is reasonably likely, in all the circumstances, to offend, insult, humiliate or intimidate another person or a group of people; and
(b) the act is done because of the race, colour or national or ethnic origin of the other person or of some or all of the people in the group.
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), an act is taken not to be done in private if it:
(a) causes words, sounds, images or writing to be communicated to the public; or
(b) is done in a public place; or
(c) is done in the sight or hearing of people who are in a public place.
(3) In this section: “public place” includes any place to which the public have access as of right or by invitation, whether express or implied and whether or not a charge is made for admission to the place.

That is part of the racial discrimination laws over the ditch and in the lead up to his election as Federal PM Abbott was going to repeal what has taken The Lucky Country from around 10th to below 20th in press freedom stakes but then allowed  A G Brandis, to abdicate that position.

Recently  The Australian News paper cartoonist Bill Leak became embroiled in serious if somewhat over the top criticism for stating the bleeding obvious as to where the primary responsibility lay over Youth detention in the Northern Territory.  Suddenly the truth became too hot for the luvvies and calls for a public hanging or at least the stocks reverberated across Australia.

Socialist regimes, Islamists, and far too many single issue missionaries whose too often dodgy beliefs and publicity need a blowtorch of investigation to be applied to an endless barrage of garbage masquerading as fact. It is all too easy for an embarrassed or just plain megalomaniac operator to attempt to hide behind obfuscation, delay or even as in Todd McLay's recent machinations over a threatened disruption of trade with the Chicoms just plain simple old denial of service under some nefarious pseudo legal claim of "national interest".

There is not much better, inexpensive or effective as a disinfectant than sunlight, but it is just too easy for those who would rule over us or wish to take ultimate power away from the peasants  to use legal if totally immoral process to avoid being revealed as having lead shoes and invisible raiment.

Before I had an awareness of what exactly threatened our increasingly dwindling numbers of free nations from the combined might of Germany and Japan and a much more flakey Italy, who embarked on a world domination escapade that slaughtered many millions of citizens, where   imagery and propaganda were significant weapons.
One famous Goebbels adage was along the lines of tell a lie big enough, often enough and it becomes the truth. Churchill plagiarised Twain with; A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.
Then there is, "The first casualty of war is the truth" That came from some Greek Blogger some 500 years before Mary had her little boy child.
So it takes very little effort to understand why those who would dominate us as opposed to rule us with consent are so enamoured of retaining an ability to lie to us and legislatively prevent any contrary viewpoint.

A little scrub fire has erupted with some little rustic museum displaying as part of an RSA display, a German Wehrmacht flag captured by a New Zealand soldier during the Battle of Crete that became the end of the Nazi Advance down through the Balkans even though the "Div" was forced to withdraw to Egypt leaving many dead and captured behind.
That piece of  souvenir cloth is a part of another of New Zealand's Battles in  history and a lifetime and seven decades later is only that..  It has very little danger as a symbol of a defeated and totally discredited if somewhat formidable armed force under the command  an even more discredited political movement that ran for over a decade of truly awful suffering death and murdering that must never be forgotten, only lessons to be learned from.

Context people it is a small part of a much bigger scene and unless the MSM make it something else or some deranged retard attempts a moment of footnote by enveloping themselves in it. let it go, it does have some relevance as I would bet  a weeks Pension (swmbo's of course) that soldier got some serious satisfaction for his act.

A little bit of freedom is just as impossible as the lass in the headline above, it either exists or it don't.


Gerald said...

"There is not much better, inexpensive or effective as a disinfectant than sunlight"

When Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis’ 1913 created the maxim that “sunlight is said to be the best of disinfect" back then science already had something better.

I wouldn't leave my cell phone in the sum and expect it to cleansed of pathogens.

Strange that you present it as factual in a lengthy diatribe on what you perceive to be fairytales.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


I wouldn't leave you in the sun and expect you to have miraculously acquired some brains.

Anonymous said...

Sometimes a small restriction on freedom is in the public good. In most of Europe, particularly France it is illegal to display the Swastika except in an historical sense, movies, museums etc. If you visit a militaria fair all the German army belt buckles have tape over them and helmets have a liftable paper flap on the sides hiding the swastika........rather that than see one braincelled morons riding around on motorbikes emblazoned with Swastikas glorifying the unspeakable.

Lord Egbut

Gerald said...

Adolf how long have you been across the ditch? During Muldoon time?
I expect that the little you started with will have decreased markedly.

Anonymous said...

gravedodger said...

Egg it is a genuine relic taken from the Airfield in Crete now in the Temuka Museum as part of an RSA display.
As usual you run off at the mouth discussing a shot missing the target, btw Temuka is in rustic Sth Canterbury just north of Phar Lap's birth place. Not even near the posers who try to suggest Akaroa is a little bit of France although there were a number of Germans in the Compte de Paris back in 1940 Waeckerle, Breitmeyer, Hahn Heitich and Takamatua was earlier German Bay.

Absolutely you would support restrictions on freedoms as decided by such luminaries as your self and other opinionated master class hall monitors, no surprises at all.

Ray said...

I got seriously grumpy when the TV "journalist" kept saying it was "stolen" last night.
Maybe looted but certainly not stolen judging by the stories I heard from the various Uncles who were there, one who still is there of course had nothing to say.

The Veteran said...

Guess ... re the 'flag'. Much ado about nothing. Talk about the media with too much time on its hands and interviewing their own typewriters. RSAs around NZL are repleat with war memorabilia and most if not all of it 'liberated' in some way, shape or form.

I returned from Vietnam with a NVA flag (complete with blood stains) taken from the body of a dead VC. Remained in a trunk for many years until I gifted it to the QE2 Army Museum. There it remains. No big deal but 'stolen' not.

The Veteran said...

errrrrrrrrr .... replete

Anonymous said...

Dodger......I was talking about the freedom of speech etc...I did mention "historical" and "museums". You must have missed that in your mad scramble to get to the keyboard and pound out that unwarranted attack.

Lord Egbut

gravedodger said...

Bollocks Egg, you were accepting of 'some' constraint on freedom of speech, over Nazi regalia in Europe.
My concern is here and now in NZ and our bigger Cousin in Australia where Race laws are being used to suppress satire and cartoon commentary as a chipping away at freedom of speech.

As I contend, it is being misused and that apparently is OK with you. Well Egg I would defend your absolute right to hold your opinions and if you feel that you would wish to actually state what I regard as rubbish, then carry right on.
You see I am convinced in this age of such multi faceted sources of information I do not fear what you might utter But I am really apprehensive that the state would wish to lock me up because they don't wish me to have those same rights.

Some recent headlines;
Sticks and stones may break my bones but speech earns 18 month jail in UK.
Three students in Brisbane after a three year legal battle on racial segregation charges over their complaint against race based rights in a computer suite for an ethnic minority.
Bill Leak's very apt cartoon on endemic failure of Family relationships as a major cause of criminal activity in Aboriginal communities causes outrage.
Some things need to be said

As I claim in my post there is very little about free speech that needs to be made a criminal act, there is more than enough law now, too much in fact.

If you regard my short exercise in free speech was an 'unwarranted attack' could I suggest a cup of cement.
Sheesh I put up with much more vicious denigration, hell one nice person in a comment on a post during my recent two month sojourn in the North suggested I keep going with the clear implication that I reach the ocean and I guess drown myself.

Nice eh.

I hope your Monday is as great as Mine has been, cheers Egg.

paul scott said...

Excellent. And just for Gerald, yes the sunlight would kill the pathogens from your phone. Try a swab from your wet hand, and then the phone after sunlight. Place in petri dish and watch Gerald.

I think had better hand myself in.
I don't like Germans, just because the men are arrogant.
I don't like Herr Merkel just because she is a traitor to her country.
And I hate Islam.
I am hoping the progressives will not burn me at the stake, for incorrect thought. Scratch a regressive and see an Orwellian fascist.