Thursday, August 4, 2016

ON KAITAIA

You saw on TV1 tonight Kaitaia being dubbed the murder capital of NZL.   You can't argue with the numbers but there is another side of the story.

It is my privilege to know some really good folk up there putting their heart and soul into that community.   Toss Kitchen, Fire Brigade Chief, Councillor and Hospital Board member; Bill Stead, Mike Masters and Jim Burrows, good solid farming stock; David Russell, one of the driving forces behind the restoration of the Kaitaia War Memorial; Sheridan Waitaia who works tirelessly on the Te Hiku - Make it Happen project; Carol Berghan; Ricky Houghton, CEO of the He Korowai Trust; the lady owner of the Beachcomer Restaurant for her continued work in brightening up the town;  Don and Liz Stevens, stalwarts of the Baptist Church who have spent much of their lives doing good works ... the list goes on and on.

But they are swamped by the ferals who inhabit the town and environs.   The mobsters from Ngati Kahu who think nothing of closing down Kaitaia airport as part of a inter-tribal feud;  Maori who think nothing of ripping off fellow Maori by peddling fake car registrations and WOFs; those whose lifestyle choice is the dole supplemented  by some wacky-baccy growing and paua poaching and the acceptance by their peers and family that this is acceptable.   Parents who abuse their kids as a matter of course.   A belief that they are exempt from societal norms.

The programme ended with calls for massive government intervention.   Got news .... there IS massive government intervention in Kaitaia and has been for a long time.   But it's all destined to fail unless there is a paradigm shift in the way people view society and take responsibility for their future.  Sir Apirana Ngata had it right when he said back in 1936 that "social welfare will destroy our people".   Socialism has failed Maori and Maoridom and only Maori and Maoridom can fashion the ladder which will allow them to climb out of the hole dug for them.

Whanau Ora is a start but I have to say it's disappointing that the MP for Northland (seldom seen) has tried his very best to undermine that programme at every opportunity. Only to be expected from a politician who works best at pulling things down rather than building things up ... sad.


26 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sounds like Darwin, nice and warm, easy food, lots of cheap grass to ease the pain of not working, thriving black market and far enough away as not to be an embarrassment.

The downward slide started when it was decided to run an apartheid system ie. two cultures side by side with different rules for each. Multiculturalism DOES NOT WORK.

Either we are New Zealanders together and operating under the same societal rules or we are not. Nth Island Maori decimated Sth Island Maori which led to them being absorbed into the Pakeha community. Surely you must have noticed that in your army days....the Sth Island Maori were the ones excluded from the Haka Boogy party.

Lord Egbut

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... not too much there to argue with although, to be fair, not all the ferals up in the Far North are Maori. There are a number of Pakeha 'no-hopers' up there too enjoying the lifestyle.

But what I do know is that for Maori change has to be driven by Maori. Rikki Houghton is a forceful character, CEO of He Korowai (a pan Maori organisation and that's its strength), who pushes the boundaries in getting things done and can upset fellow Maori (and Pakeha) in the process but he is dead right in arguing that Maori shouldn't be looking to Wellington or to a 'Hole in the Wall' for answers .... the answers are within.

Your Darwin analogy is pretty apt.

JC said...

Basically its up to Maori to take the whole ToW parade out of Northland and celebrate it somewhere else because it is the litmus test for all the continued theatre that is Northland Maori, underachievement and rot.

Likewise there is no point to further settlements and compensation till that mob sort out their differences and approach Govt honestly.. again what is going on is theatre.

A good number of years ago a Northland senior police officer said 80% of Northland crime could be traced to just six families.. and thats about of the order of the continuing political theatre going on up there.

Whatever good can be achieved in Northland won't come from Maori or Whanau disruption and politicing. Its time people realised that Northland Maoridom isn't "Maori".. its bumper sticker plastic tikidom.

Just over 20 years ago Doug Graham put his finger on the problem when he related on an Eskimo grievance up in Canada when he was doing his preliminary fact finding for Maori compensation.
He found a Innuit group with a huge grievance but they wouldn't tell anyone what it was.. because if the problem was aired someone would try and resolve it and thus destroy their wonderful anger and victimisation and the grievance merchants would be out of a job.

Oh.. and bring back the Sedition Act.. even if we don't jail the idiots we should at least apply the correct designation to them and cut off their tax funded financial supports. Settlements are a two way process.

JC

The Veteran said...

JC ... your penultimate para is on the money. The simple reality is that there are some in Maoridom (many of them up in Northland) who thrive on the grievance industry ... they are forever looking back rather than looking forward ... aided and abetted by a bunch of mostly second rate lawyers who don't want to see their gravy train pull into the station.

But I am encouraged by the increasing numbers within Maoridom who acknowledge that things must change and who are prepared to be part of change. The problem is that they are outnumbered by the ferals.

Anonymous said...

In complete contrast to the Nga Bush ferals there are other locals like Col. James Kaio who provide a role model. Disrespect him at your complete peril, whether you're black, white, brown or brindle.

Mick

Anonymous said...

Veteran...there are no second rate lawyers left "oop north". They are all at the Waitangi Maori veteran hearings where despicable acts are being heard daily. I sent off a FOI request on the costs so far....it was refused on the basis it may sow discord and cause public unrest.

Lord Egbut

Noel said...

Where in Section 6 does it claim those reasons can be used to deny disclosure?

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... point taken but I think most of the 'lawyers' (and I use that term advisedly) are from Auckland, the Waikato, Central NI and the East Coast. The common denominator is that they have attempted to embellish the 'truth' out of existence. I applaud Ross Himona for his efforts in trying to set the record straight.

Shelldrake said...

Thanks Vet for drawing attention to Ross Himona's Scholly submission. Very appropriate and pertinent. Wil be lost on the uneducated grievance industry fools including the red Reverend Te Ua.

Anonymous said...

Yes, a most interesting submission particularly the bit where he provides proof that troops were never sprayed with Agent Orange and the inclusion of the Aust.epidemiology study on our good health in his evidence was a master stroke.

Shelldrake......Chickens and hatching spring to mind, the tribunal will decide what is politically convenient at the time and yes I am a man of little faith.

Lord Egbut

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... not sure I can agree with your assertion that the WT will decide what is politically convenient at the time. The WT has never been much on political convenience and you can perhaps argue political inconvenience is their trademark.

While I personally think the WT is exceeding its mandate in hearing this claim the reality is that the Inquiry continues. I don't envy the task of Members in sifting through the mountain of hubris and exaggeration that is the hallmark of many of the submissions. That is why the Himona submission is so important in trying to inject some balance into the situation. I understand that you might have contributed in some why, shape or form to that submission and, if I'm correct, then I congratulate you too.

Noel said...

"Yes, a most interesting submission particularly the bit where he provides proof that troops were never sprayed with Agent Orange and the inclusion of the Aust.epidemiology study on our good health in his evidence was a master stroke."

Yes why wasn't this master stroke presented to the Joint Working Group in 2006?

The Veteran said...

Noel ... I detect a touch of cynicism in that comment. That's his opinion and the WT will decide the weight to be afforded it. IMHO it serves to balance some of the more dubious 'evidence' put forward by submitters to the Inquiry.

I find it interesting that the original McLeod Report did consider the Australian Epidemiology Study (see pages 56-57) and concluded it constituted "level 4 evidence (whatever that means) and is a poor quality study".

Gerald said...

Strange all this focus on correcting the WT by presenting evidence of no exposure to Agent Orange by Kiwi Veterans yet there is no thrust to have the Presumptive List removed from VANZ. Especially now that the Government has finally accepted the RMA SOPs.

The Veteran said...

Gerald ... from MY perspective the focus is on providing a degree of balance to some of the misinformation being pedaled by certain submitters ... like Bandsman Hooper's (7 day) journey into the jaws of hell, being a couple of hours in a FSB, drenched in AO playing his trombone or whatever, and all the while suffering major discrimination because he was Maori (in a Battalion commanded by a Maori) ...
Puke.

Noel said...

Gerald I don't know how many Veterans had conditions declined because of the long term obstruction to the introduction of the RMA Sops.

With the passage of time it's pretty obvious from investigations of all Vietnam Veteran population, including North Vietnamese, that none had TCCD thresholds greater that the general population and certainly not at the level for Chloracne to occur.

You're right. Allowing the Presumptive List with its exgratia payments for Chlorance to remain alongside the SOPs is hypocritical.

Anonymous said...

Veteran...I believe the original Mcleod report was referring to the 1996 Australian study which was basically a study by post ie self reporting, which is never a good idea.

The 2003/4 epidemiology study never saw the light of day in NZ. However if you can find any reference to it being produced I would be grateful if you could tell me for my files.

Lord Egbut

Anonymous said...

Sorry...just clicked before brain in gear....heavy night.
Mcleod report 2001.......long before the 2003/4 (gold star) OZ report which was conveniently hidden from the select committee..

Lord Egbut

Noel said...

In 2003 the DVA focus was on Korean Veterans research.
Perhaps you have mistaken it with the 3rd Mortality and accompanying Cancer Incidence study?

Anonymous said...

http://www.defence.gov.au/health/infocentre/journals/adfhj_sep03/adfhealth_4_2_59-65.pdf

Anonymous said...

Anon...long redundant study without any merit at all. The epidemiological study of 50,000 veterans put it in it's place. The layman will look at the HMAS Sydney study and go wow....without knowing that 100's of thousands gallons of drinking water was put aboard in Aus. before each trip. Evaporator water was used for boilers and cleaning. The intakes were 20or so feet below the water line and the TCDD molecule is carbon based and floats....not to mention the ultra violet light kills it in a short space of time. SOP also said that evaporators were not to used in harbours or estuaries this was standard in both merchant ships and Naval ships throughout the world. When you see a report always look for what they are not telling you as opposed to what they want you know.....always an eye on the next grant.

Lord Egbut

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... you're correct. The McLeod Report's comment related to the 1996 Oz study.

Noel said...

long before the 2003/4 (gold star) OZ report which was conveniently hidden from the select committee..

The 3rd Mortality and accompanying Cancer Incidence studies were published in 2005.
The year after the Chadwick SHC.

Not sure how something published a year after the event could be described as hidden.

Gerald said...

Noel the hypocrisy of the Presumptive List been side by side with the SOPs is more than one condition.
The List gives automatic acceptance of a condition whereas a SOP claim has to be measured.

Anonymous said...

Published in the public domain....copies were available prior to that in the form of discussion papers to interested parties. Even after publication no one thought to reassure the veterans that all was well. No... they told the world in 2006 that we were dieing at faster rate than our contemporaries.

Lord Egbut

Noel said...

So the interested parties didn't forward the discussion paper to the SHC.
Foundation for the claim it was "hidden"?