Saturday, July 23, 2016

MISSING IN NEWS SO FAR.



As events in this weeks atrocity in mainland Europe are eeked out of every official pronouncement, there seems to me to be some glaring omissions.

He had Iranian and German papers and it was Friday.

Now I know I am being very naughty but an Iranian is likely to have some links to Islam and Friday Prayers are sometimes what sends these peaceful lovely young men out to do things that are almost always totally unexpected.

Now if one was a mastermind of the ongoing carnage that seems to happen all too often on Friday, would it be too great a stretch to consider they might just consider there might be negatives should this weeks perp be launched from the local mosque and a bit of separation could be tactically advantageous.

Anyway he was probably just the next hungry yoof wanting to know where the nearest " Alley Snack Bar " is.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Sometimes I wonder if you are a computer generated troll, your knowledge of the Middle Eastern world is abysmal. ISIS/Daesch is Sunni and they kill Shias as a matter of course without compunction. Iran is 98% Shia. All the military gains against ISIS are by Shia militias.

ISIS have racked up murder rate against Shia Muslims at an astonishing rate that makes the recent European atrocities pale into insignificance unless you think that a European life is worth ten Middle Eastern lives. .

Try this.....disturbed kid 18, same age as Columbine killer kids, insensitised to death by violent DVD games, bullied at school and lacking a social conscience gets hold of a gun.

Lord Egbut Nobacon

paul scott said...

He's right you know, a European life is worth 10 middle Eastern lives, and 12 stupid pseudonyms.

Anonymous said...

I see it so clearly now thanks to Eggbutt. As long as Muslims kill other Muslims at a greater rate than they kill people in non Muslim groupings we should be grateful for that ratio and just accept being the collateral damage. Why could I not see this before? I just hope someone is keeping score so we know when to tut tut if the ratio becomes skewed outside the acceptable ratio.

3:16

Anonymous said...

Funny that..it turns out he was a disturbed kid who was non religious, bullied at school to the point of being a loner, obsessed with guns...just like an all American schoolboy who doesn't like Mondays.......

Some of you ought to try broadening your horizons and stop stereotyping.

Lord Egbut

Gerald said...

You no Dogger any opportunity to show his islamophobic bent.
Once again he hasnt presented any factual evidence.

Noel said...

Amazing. Holder of dual passports and the day was Friday equals an Isis attack. For evidence of a conspiracy it tops all your other attempts.

JC said...

Egbut, you should be an Olympic gymnast.. your ability to contort yourself into any position to avoid arriving at a conclusion is awesome.

Taken at face value sometimes you and others show Muslims, unlike any other grouping in the world commit 90% + of the murderous rampages in the world without a motive, never because of their religion, go postal because they are "disturbed".

When challenged the cry goes up what about Anders Brevik, the Oklahoma bombers or in Obama's case the Crusades.. these apparently offset the 29,000 acts of Muslim terrorism carried out since 9/11.

If we are not to ascribe a terrorist or religious motive then we are left with unpalatable thought that anything.. anything at all will set off any Muslim on a rampage with mass murder the result.

According to this line of argument there is no motive but getting picked on at school.. they'll go postal, they are always mental.. and go postal, look in their eyes.. yep, that can set them off.

Of course every other human grouping has individuals like this who commit acts of terror and mass muder and we always find a motive but somehow we miss the 17% of the world population that commit 90% of these acts and don't know why they go feral.

Then again, as Raymond Ibrahim says, Western leaders who talk about Islam are either liars or idiots..

https://pjmedia.com/homeland-security/2016/07/22/when-it-comes-to-islam-western-leaders-are-liars-or-idiots/

JC

Howie said...

JC is obviously mildly retarded. I shall type slowly so he can understand. The case in question, which Gravetodger leapt to claim was Islamic terrorism, was a lone nutter more closely aligned to Breivik than ISIS. Simple enough for you?

"Taken at face value sometimes you and others show Muslims, unlike any other grouping in the world commit 90% + of the murderous rampages in the world without a motive, never because of their religion, go postal because they are "disturbed"."

To the extent this makes sense at all, it is a straw-man built by a retard. While it is completely false, it is true that the weirdos in the alt-right tend to attribute every act of violence to the scary muzzies (or Black Lives Matter, or Mexicans), as that helps build and maintain the fear. Trump knows this, which is why he does it too.

The Veteran said...

Hmmmm ... if Howie and Gerald are right then we can all go to bed tonight in the full and certain knowledge that the level of violence we are seeing in the world right now is acceptable in today's society and really we have nothing to worry about ... let alone trying to identify and make sense of the reasons for it.

Anonymous said...

I have to agree with Lord Egbut on this one, given his original comment on this post.
It's too easy to stereotype people because of race/culture/religion.
That doesn't mean I don't believe there is a common denominator in recent terrorist attacks in general, it does mean there can be exceptions, and that at this point in time, that appears to be the case.

Kiwi in Oz

Howie said...

"Hmmmm ... if Howie and Gerald are right then we can all go to bed tonight in the full and certain knowledge that the level of violence we are seeing in the world right now is acceptable in today's society and really we have nothing to worry about ... let alone trying to identify and make sense of the reasons for it."

That cannot be inferred from anything I or Egbut have said, but yeah, keep it up with those strawmen. One things for sure, I don't let Donald Trump tell me bedtime stories. Do you?

Shelldrake said...

May I recommend a book that throws some light on Islam. Very infomative, somewhat disturbing but as the title implies, Islam needs a reformation primarily for the benefit of its own adherents. I suggest a complete rad is essential rather than just bursting into print on fixing the first passage that does not agree with your own views.

"Heretic - Why Islam needs a Reformation" Author, Ayaan Hirsi Ali

Fairfacts Media said...

You can fully understand why the governments and media do their utmost to downplay or cover up so many Islamic atrocities.
Breitbart did a fine expose on how the BBC removed the name Ali from Mr Sonboly to make him should less muslim.
Either way, as CNN reported, the lad used the words 'allahu akhbar' as he carried out his killing spree in Munich.
It was witnessed by a muslim lady called loretta.
It may be the NZ media neglected to tell you this titbit, just like our own beloved BBC.

Oooh look and don't we have another muslim attack in Germany today?, but this time from a Syrian refugee of all things.
Well done Angela Merkel.
How will they spin/ downplay this one?

Anonymous said...

Quickly now, ring the the German police and tell them of your breakthrough. You do talk some bollocks....

JC said...

"let alone trying to identify and make sense of the reasons for it."

If you can't explain why Muslims suddenly and without sufficient reason go on a killing spree then you can't allow any of them to live in your country.. the public simply will not allow it.

You *must* be able to explain why some Muslims go feral and show how you intend to reduce or eliminate the threat.. thats such a basic requirement of public safety as to hardly need any further explanation.

JC

Anonymous said...

Muslims are people, people go feral and as you live in one of the most counties on in the OECD how many of the attackers that front up to the Magistates on Monday morning are Muslim?

Robert Fisk asks the question in today's papers Why are violent men who attach their wives or neighbours called Muslim in the west but just attackers in the rest of the world? If you preceded each NZ attack or assault with the word Maori you would soon build up a public perception that all Maori are potentially dangerous.

I'm not an apologist for the Muslim religion JC....just discriminatory in my views having known and lived with people of the Muslim religion and know how a bit of bad press can whip up the flames of mob hatred ....ask the Jews, or are they a target too?

WE are always going to have mass killings by groups who claim allegiance to political orginisations sometimes using religion as the catch-all excuse or as recruiting tool and if all this fools some people then they are easily fooled.

Lord Egbut Nobacon

JC said...

"WE are always going to have mass killings by groups who claim allegiance to political orginisations sometimes using religion as the catch-all excuse or as recruiting tool and if all this fools some people then they are easily fooled."

That comment is the logical extension to what I was saying.

You and the authorities are telling their publics that they must accept such killings in the interests of multiculturalism and some notion of humanitarianism, that the terror is not confined to one generation of migrants/refugees but ensuing generations as is apparent in France and England and USA and of course is demanded in the Muslim holy books..

.. and then they wonder how they ended up with Trump and the rise of a dozen or so extremist political parties in Europe, Pauline Hansen in Oz, Winston here and Brexit in UK!

JC

Anonymous said...

Why do you read so much into so little....Hindu's have great rep in the UK for bumping off their wives. No one has said it's acceptable. Unlike NZ a stabbing death in London goes unreported in the MSM ...unless he/she is a Muslim and the papers can sell a few extra copies spinning it a bit.

The rise of the fish and chip lady, an ageing granny magnet and a glossy lying egotist says more about the gross national intelligence of said countries than any thing that they may have to offer.

Lord Egbut
PS. Stay away from the Mail on line...it's a joke.