Wednesday, June 22, 2016

PETERS BEING PETERS BEING DUMB

Ok, we all know that Winston Peters is a perennial headline chaser but his criticism of John Key for not joining him in urging British voters to vote for Brexit is WSP at his mischievous worst.

One one hand he declares his support for Brexit in a speech to the House of Lords and reaffirms it in an interview today and on the other he criticizes President Obama for 'lecturing' Britons that they should back remaining in the EU.   Is Peters so dumb that he can't see a certain inconsistency in his position? ... answer, doesn't care.   He knows his adoring fans don't worry about their Messiah's inconsistencies.   He's spoken, that's sufficient.

As for his argument that Brexit will open up new trade opportunities for New Zealand and Peters shows yet again he doesn't understand market economics.   Europe remains where it is ... 33k from Dover.    The 'chunnel' doesn't shut down. Europe will continue to sell to the UK ... subsidies and all.   It's British farming and farmers who will suffer.  New Zealand will continue to struggle to achieve market access for lamb, beef and dairy products.   Not much will change.

Perhaps a more simple reason ... cant, hubris, unreality and ADD are clear signs of aging.    
  

17 comments:

Angry Tory said...

NZ's access to the EU was negotiated for us by... Britain, when she joined the Common Market. BRexit will cancel those arrangements. NZ's access to the UK is currently covered by the EU regulations: after BRexit we have to re-negotiate those as well.

And, hell, BRexit won't even stop UK farmers from getting the same subsidies they get under the CAP.

The Veteran said...

AT ... you may be right in respect of your first point. You're certainly right re the second. The UK farming sector lives (and falls) by subsidies. And Peters who talks in sound bites either doesn't understand or doesn't want want to understand and probably both. His dream of a return to 'Imperial Preference' is laughable if it wasn't so sad.

Anonymous said...

I keep hearing complaints from NZ farmers about UK farming subsidies...why can't they be like us and stand on our own two feet comes the cry.

Simple answer to a simple question... U boats and starvation loom large in the tribal memory.

Lord Egbut

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... reinforced by the Agriculture Act 1947 which guaranteed UK farmers prices, markets and tenure and continued today with UK farmers receiving the fifth largest agricultural subsidies in the EU. Pull those subsidies and the agricultural sector in the UK would go broke.

Anonymous said...

Why waste the time and effort to sell a few Sunday roasts .
When you have a larger market that is half the distance away.
Peters being a racist bigot can't see that.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

" U boats and starvation loom large in the tribal memory."

Bullshit Legbut.

If they lost their subsidies they'd learn how to produce lambe at an economic price. Ask any Kiwi sheep farmer over the age of of 55.

Anonymous said...

That inane comment from Flinko shows how much he knows about UK farming policy, weather and land availability.

Britain nearly starved during the the war a the farming sector had no investment for fifty years. The Empire fed Britain in return for goods and preferential trade deals.

That will never happen again as farming land is never sold and can be acquired by the crown for crop production in a national emergency. It's not wasted on sheep.

You can be such a tit at times. That.s not personal abuse it;s just an observation.

Lord Egbut

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Poor Legbut.

All those sheep in the Wye Valley must be ghosts.

Do you mean to tell me no farmer in the UK can sell his farm?

You just go from bad to worse.

Anonymous said...

Yes...they can sell but only as a farm, no building consents for farmland except to replace like for like......but you knew that and you knew what I meant.

Google "Green Belt" UK. While you at it google welsh hill farmers. The UK must keep enough land for agriculture to ensure food independence even if it means subsidies.

Now google Battle of the Atlantic and see how close Britain came to mass starvation and how public parks were turned into cabbage fields......as I said U boats loom large.

Lord Egbut


Adolf Fiinkensein said...

caught bullshitting again.

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... are you sure you're right re building consents for farm property? A property that we have an interest in (The Showers ... just out of Kingsland and not too far from your old stamping ground) saw the old (and I mean old) farmhouse hived off, sold and converted into townhouses. The farmland as such remains in the family and is leased out with the principal owner living in another house (Lincoln House) on the property which contains two other cottages occupied by old (non working) retainers whose rents haven't been increased in the last three decades.

How does the UK keep up the demand for new and additional housing with an average annual population increase over the last decade approaching 450,000 if there can be no encroachment onto farmland?

Anonymous said...

There is very little farmland that is not green belt and what there is usually in small parcels, pony paddocks etc. has been purchased by property developers.

Brown field sites, dock lands, old heavy industrial sites abound and with the rejuvenation of the inner cities and modern building techniques there is no shortage of places to build with right consents. Your families farmland proper could not be sold for building unless there is change in the law....and will someone tell that irritating little simpleton to stop carping.

Lord Egbut

The Veteran said...

Egbut ... ty, appreciated. I have no control over my colleagues and don't wish any. Neither do they have exert any control over me and that's how it should be. About to grab myself some bkfst and settle down to watch what I suspect will be 5-6 hours of blood sports on the Beeb.

The analysis of the UK political scene post referendum by Laura Kuenssberg, BBC political editor, is instructive. You see see it at http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36594841

For the record and with the campaign done and dusted I now declare my hand. I would vote Remain. Brexit would be a bit like NZL walking away from the CER with Oz.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

For the self proclaimed genius who knows more about anything than anybody, nothing but nothing is more irritating than being caught out and flat wrong. Irritating I say!

Gerald said...

"nothing is more irritating than being caught out and flat wrong"

Geez I haven't been keeping score. Sure Adolf has a much higher score than M'Lord.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

No Gerald, you haven't been keeping score. Trolls can't count.

Gerald said...

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Then there Medical Misadventure which wasn't original to you
Then there was
Then there was
Then there was

And the winner is!