Sunday, June 26, 2016

ON BLOGGING AND TROLLS

I have been asked many times both on and off blog why I don't ban idiots from the extremes of both ends of the political continuum. The answer is simple (for me anyway).   'Idiot' posters define themselves by what they say.   Far better that their idiocy is played out in the public arena for all to see rather than shut down and out.

I blog on things that interest me.   I do not expect readers to necessarily agree with me ... that goes with the territory.   Some of those who post here regularly disagree with me ... Egbut and Noel to the fore in this; but that's their right and that's what blogging is all about.  One would prefer that is done respectfully but everyone (me included) will sometimes have a 'bad hair' day. However there is a line where those who comment on 'My' blog cross at their peril. Call me a liar and you're out.

My observation is that idiot posters from the hard Left tend to be plain nasty whereas their idiot colleagues from the far Right tend to be defined by their stupidity.    One of my PolSci lecturers used to put it this way ... that there's really no difference between the far Right and and the far Left ... they are joined at the hip.  Both are authoritarian; both are dismissive of dissenting opinion to the point of violence.    You see that on this blog.   It is right these posters are given the opportunity and space to condemn themselves out of their own mouths.

22 comments:

Noel said...

"In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into replying."

Seems to me the simple solution is to not reply.

The Veteran said...

Noel ... ty. Generally right but occasionally I take a certain delight in provoking 'them' into compounding their stupidity (AT and his call for the immediate end to NZ Superannuation case at point).

Anonymous said...

You do know that AT is a pisstake, right? . . a parody of what he thinks Nat voters are.

The Veteran said...

Anon ... that had occurred to me but, if you're right, it's a pretty poor pisstake, that misses the mark completely. Nah, on balance I think he's a screwed up soul who probably thinks Genghis Khan was a dangerous socialist.

Psycho Milt said...

A parody? 8 or 9 years ago I thought the same thing. However, the wild-eyed fascist gibbering has been completely consistent over that whole period. These days I just assume the author's giving vent to genuine opinions he daren't express IRL.

The Veteran said...

PM ... IRL = In Real Life?

Psycho Milt said...

Yes, that's it.

The Realist said...

Speaking generally I have found the left often prefer to attack the man rather than the argument. The old ad hominem approach. I don't really see that so much on the right.

Redbaiter said...

Good to see the left wing Nat Party apologist the Vet feeling the pressure.

For that is all this post really is. An attempt to smokescreen the Nat Party's dereliction of duty and their abject failure to develop a strategy to counter the left's tactic of Cultural Marxism aka gradualism.

People who read my blog know I'm no Trump fan, but I do understand the reason he has risen. Because so many voters finally realised the Republican Party was more a part of the problem than any solution.

After being elected so many times on the basis that it was a smidgen better than the Democrats, voters finally got angry with the Republicans for this electoral blackmail and decided to do something about it.

The National Party in NZ has operated on the same basis. Not giving any other option to voters other than to vote for Socialist Party A or Socialist Party B, and thereby engaging in a complete betrayal of their founding principles.

So we have had almost 16 years of far left socialism, and now the spirit of liberty and free enterprise is practically defunct in the country. Killed off by the left in Labour, and the left in National who have not had the balls or the brains to muster any kind of defence.

Winston Peter's vote is rising as a result of Nat's gutless surrender. Shame is he really doesn't get it much either. There will be a better politician come along. Better than Trump. Better than Winston.

It will start off-shore, and being as how NZ is still an insular socialist isle in the manner of East Germany behind the Berlin wall, it will take time to take hold here, but it will come.

The two far left parties National and Labour will be consigned to the rubbish bin of history. Then we will look back and wonder how we ever fell for such patent rubbish.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Red

"....Not giving any other option to voters other than to vote for Socialist Party A or Socialist Party B,...."

Eeeeeerrrmmmm ever heard of MMP?

The Veteran said...

Red ... no pressure, just answering the question often posed to me and restating my bottom line. As for reading your blog ... well, the blog stats would indicate I would be lonely in doing so.

Trump and he has more positions than the Kama Sutra ... see he has just wound back his position on Muslims entering the US. Reminds me a bit of Mr Marx ... 'I have principles and if you don't like them I have others'.

Dear Old Winston. He does a good impression of a wind-up doll. Nothing changes. Interventionist par excellence in the Muldoon tradition and steadfast in his view that all WOGs start north of Cape Reinga (unless they are WASPS).

As for your stupid remark comparing NZL to East Germany. Proof positive as to the accuracy of my original post.

David said...

Check your logs, but I reckon you'll find that Angry Tory, Worried of Tauranga and Redbaiter are one and the same.

Redbaiter said...

You infinitely stupid arsehole.

David said...

looks like a struck a nerve.

Burgers said...

Looks like "David" is the very same fat old cunt David Brindley who left nasty comments about the death of Cam Slater's mother on the Whaleoil blog and did it in the name of Peter Burns (D4J) - until Farrar outed him that is.

David is a lowlife fat gutted piece of shit.

Anonymous said...


Look at the debt for Christ's sake. Key, English, Joyce - these are supposed to be steely-eyed money men. The only idea they have mass immigration to inflate GDP by virtue of population growth, but of course someday that piper will need to be paid.


http://www.tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/government-debt-to-gdp
http://www.nationaldebtclocks.org/debtclock/newzealand

The Veteran said...

Anon 8.02 ... and of course the GFC and the Christchurch earthquakes never happened at all ... and we are now back in surplus. Plonker.

Redbaiter said...

Surplus while we pay billions in interest on debt.

What a socialist joke.

The Veteran said...

Red ... another stupid comment that defines you. Surpluses allow us to pay down debt. When you have debt you pay interest ... duh. Of course we could always do a Trump and default. Is that you solution?

Redbaiter said...

Debt about $70 billion.

Surplus is what? $1 million?

That's why its a joke.

Smoke and mirrors economy only working as it is because you've sold the country to alien cultures.

The Veteran said...

Red ... you're boring in your stupidity. I pose the question yet again ... so the GFC and Christchurch earthquakes never happened? Yep, it takes time to pay down debt ... clearly you've never had a mortgage.

Let me educate you a little. Our current ratio of GDP to Govt Debt stands at 30.36% ... the lowest in five years and is projected to keep falling steadily. Compare that ratio to other countries: Japan 229.2% projected to increase; US 104.17% projected to fall; France 96.1% projected to increase; Germany 71.2% projected static; China 43.9% projected to increase and Australia 36.8% projected to increase.

Our ratio of debt to GDP reached an all time high of 61.2% in 1986 (under Douglas).

And you're arguing it's all smoke and mirrors and all this from someone who compares our country with East Germany. I'm not sure whether I should fell sorry for you or not. You condemn yourself by your own stupidity. Sigh.

I get the last word. End of thread.

paul scott said...

arhhyeah fuck. trump for President