Sunday, April 3, 2016

Poor Stacey

She got the wrong headline.

Instead of "Why We Can't Trust The Government" the silly girl  might have done better attempting to analyse "Why We Don't Trust The Media."  She wouldn't have to look far to find the reasons - one of them resides in her mirror.

It seems to me the height of stupidity to be pushing the tires old myth of 'the gummint is spying on you' when the dust has not yet fully settled in Paris and is still swirling in Brussels.

Miss Stacey needs to understand that most NZers trust their government more than they trust her and her ilk.  Middle NZ is very happy that our gummint has the tools it needs to keep us all safe from seriously buggers.

Oh well, just another reason for the decline and decline of Fairfax.


Noel said...

Warrantless searches are allowable under the 2012 Search and Surveillance Act for Police and other agencies. These are usually determined by the need for fast action to either preserve the safety of the public, an offender likely to abscond or documents heading for the shredder.

All reasonable rationales.

SIS and GCSB are not covered by the Act. Whatever rationales they have are obscure to Joe Kiwi.


David said...

Not sure how many terrorist attacks NZ has had, the last I can recall was 1985.

Here in Oz we have very good cause to be wary of the government's use of the various security agencies they can control.

In February 1978 two garbage men and a police man were murdered when a bomb exploded at the Sydney Hilton, venue for CHOGM. This was staged by ASIO in order to gain extra powers they had wanted, but had been denied. The Commonwealth Government has refused all requests for an inquiry or Royal Commission.

On 30 November 1983 armed members of ASIS carried out an illegal "training exercise" at Melbourne's Sheraton Hotel. Property was destroyed and Sheraton Hotel staff threatened by masked, armed men.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


I hope you are not suggesting we should wait for some attacks to take place before we do what is necessary to prevent them.

David said...

Adolf, how does one prevent the unknown?

Just say, in September 2000, I proposed that all aircraft Cockpit doors were to be reinforced and bulletproof to prevent unauthorized access.

That passengers be prohibited from entering the cockpit during flight.

That aircraft be equipped with CCTV cameras, so the pilots can monitor cabin activity.

That pilots be permitted to carry firearms.

That every flight had armed air marshals.

That passengers be made to remove their shoes and subject themselves to "pat downs" before boarding a flight.

You would have called me crazy, the airlines would have balked at the added cost, people would have been marching in the streets.

The best way to fight the terrorists is to maintain our freedoms while using good intelligence and policing skills. It does not mean making us all suspects and turning our countries in to prison camps.

Anonymous said...

David: So far the locked cockpit door policy has cost over six hundred lives. Nothing and everything to do with terrorism.. All dead in the name of the kneejerk overwhelming common sense and fear of the unknown.

Lord Egbut

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


Terrorist attacks are NOT unknown.

David said...


Anonymous said...

I was lucky enough to be invited to sit in the cockpit jump seat of a Quantas 747 landing at early morning Brisbane in 1996. Today a British Airways passenger was invited to right seat because he helped overpower a drunk. Common sense still prevails it seems.

Once you kowtow to to the US diktats of locked cockpit doors or you don't fly here you lose sight of the fact that the choice is that you either lock the mad bastards out or lock the mad bastards in. So far history has taught us that locking mad bastards in causes more deaths than locking the mad bastards out given the airport checks introduced since 11/9....don't correct me, I use dates as I was taught.

Lord Egbut Nobacon