Friday, March 11, 2016

Fridays Fulminations

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I'll kick off by observing the milk solids payout is now to be $3.90.  This is what it was in 1985.

The difference then was that farm finance rates were running at between 15% and 22%.

Unreported farm suicides were prolific.


Anonymous said...

I don't believe you can actually not report a suicide and if you did not report it how would you know they were prolific. I also think that the removal of comments before we are entertained is very high handed and God knows this blog is in dire need of entertainment, even if it is only the Topp brothers pulling each others hair.

Lord Egbut Nobacon

Anonymous said...

I did ask Willis what he was smoking when he said he would leave it to Adolf to entertain.

pdm said...

Good Lord Egbut - as I recall you were approached a month or three ago to become a contributor to the blog. You should take it up and try providing the entertaining posts you say you desire instead of being just another cynical bore in the comments area of the blog.

Anonymous said...

The farmers and irrigating developers have brought it on themselves in some respects. Millions were spent on irrigation to convert the Canta Plains from cropping and sheep to cows and now the arse has fallen out of milk prices. Bye products are polluted water for the city and streams drying up all over the province.

Anonymous said...

Willis left it in yours and Adolf hands to inform and entertain. Pretty big job!

David said...

When I lived and worked in North Canty, I was dismayed at the rapid conversion to dairying on land that was so ill suited (stony, free draining ancient riverbed) and the draining of aquifers to irrigate.

I proposed that goats be farmed instead of cows, as both provide milk and goats have other advantages.

Goats can live on a variety of food, not just perfect pasture.

The land can carry more goats per hectare than cows.

Goat meat is the most widely eaten meat in the world, so the export market for surplus stock is huge.

And don't go on about the different flavours of the milk - if you put milk in your coffee you ruin two drinks.

Noel said...

Fonterra is a farmer owned cooperative.
I don't remember any farmer pressure on the board to reduce the domestic milk price when they "were in clover".
Possibly accounts for the lack of sympathy from average Joe Kiwi to their current plight.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Quite right, Noel.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...


Oh ye of little faith.

Nuthin' you don't believe ain't worth believing.

As it happens, during the '80s I had a team of 24 employees, each calling on up to a dozen farmers each day, all over NZ.

I suggest you stop and think before you next rush so boldly into print. There is a difference between reporting to the police and reporting in the media.

Howie said...

I see Todd Barclay is displaying the classic tory traits of dishonesty and underhanded abuse of power. Wee man has learnt fast hasn't he?

Noel said...

"The police involvement is believed to be related to allegations that the first-term MP made a secret recording of a staff member."

Wasn't there some change a couple of years back where one could record a discussion with another party but it cannot be used in a Court.

I guess the type of recording and the circumstance will come to light at some point.

Must admit there have been times in the past when I have simply placed a Dictaphone on the table and watched the reaction of the opposition. Yah get to the facts quickly.

Noel said...

Sorry "one party consent" Law is American. Don't know if we have the same.

Anonymous said...

"Under section 216B of the Crimes Act 1961 it is an offence to intentionally "intercept" (ie record) private communications. However, this restriction does not apply where the individual who records the communication is a party to that communication, even if the other party has no knowledge that the conversation is being recorded.

However in some (but notably, not all) situations, the secret taping of a conversation may amount to a breach of the information privacy principles outlined in section 6 of the Privacy Act 1993 (Privacy Act)."

Anonymous said...

PDM.......thirteen comments on a Friday Fulmination....boring?

pdm said...

anon -only one from Lord E.

BTW if you want to make a better contribution to the debates get a nom de plume - most others can do it.