Friday, August 1, 2014

Autocued Dimwit

As the misinformation and propaganda pours out of Gaza, it seems one autocue reader has been overcome.

Rachel Smalley

Only today one is able to start to hear what really is going on in Gaza where the nice people from Hamas tightly manage all information and feed it to their gullible handmaidens like Ms Smalley.

“Misfired rocket killed children in Shati. Witness: militants rushed and cleared debris,” Barbati wrote.
Significantly, Barbati tweeted this only after he had left Gaza. In the same tweet he wrote, “Out of Gaza far from Hamas retaliation.”
Kinda says it all.

Cameron Slater has some excellent commentary on this vast decepti0on over at Whaleoil.

12 comments:

Psycho Milt said...

1. Do you perhaps think the IDF doesn't tightly manage all information?
2. Do you perhaps think the Israeli government doesn't feed propaganda to gullible journalists?
3. Are you perhaps labouring under the delusion that the IDF bombarding residential areas with heavy artillery isn't causing large numbers of civilian deaths, with the deaths actually caused by 'misfired Hamas rockets' instead?
4. Slater doesn't have 'excellent commentary' on this subject, he has poisonously racist bullshit from Israeli and American propaganda sources. His 'commentary' is the occupier-friendly version of the Hamas guidelines he quotes.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Sorry Milt. You're pushing shit up hill again.

As a matter of interest, Israel does not control what information comes out of Gaza.

The poison to which you refer ALL comes out of Gaza.

Psycho Milt said...

Israel does not control what information comes out of Gaza.

The IDF controls the information coming out of Gaza that it can control, ie info relating to: the activities of its personnel; their rules of engagement; what is being targeted; the events in which its personnel are killed or injured; and the results of aerial surveillance and other intelligence. This IDF-managed info is deliberate and deceitful propaganda to the same extent that Hamas-managed info is, with the difference that a much larger number of useful idiots in the West apply no scepticism to the IDF version.

Anonymous said...

And yet again Hamas has broken the ceasefire, killing two Israeli soldiers and possibly abducting a third.

Do you think by now, as if it needs repeating, that after the sixth broken ceasefire, the deluded amongst us will come to recognise that you can't negotiate with savages.

Mrs Danvers

Jim Peters said...

Sorry Mr Milt.

The ability to end the conflict and transform Gaza into a prosperous metropolis, like Beirut once was, is completely in the hands of the citizens of Gaza.

However, their loving embrace of the hate-filled death cult of Hamas is their willing choice. You reap what you sow.

Until the Palestinians in Gaza grow up and start acting like rational, civilised people, any sympathy I had for them is gone.

I know such maturity requires a significant Arab/Muslim culture shift to happen and change has to come from within. It will happen, but it will take many decades or centuries and cost untold lives before it does.


Jim Peters

Psycho Milt said...

...you can't negotiate with savages.

Just checking: would we be 'savages' if we killed or captured soldiers invading our country, or is this more of a 'don't like darkies' thing?

The ability to end the conflict and transform Gaza into a prosperous metropolis, like Beirut once was, is completely in the hands of the citizens of Gaza.

Leaving aside for the moment the fact that their not actually being 'citizens' of anywhere is exactly the point, you seem to imagine the people in Gaza have some decision-making capacity in the question whether to be a stateless people in a big open-air prison camp run by the Israelis, and have decided in favour of it. Events suggest they are in fact very much opposed to it but don't have a solution 'in their hands' at all.

Jim Peters said...

With respect, Mr Milt, the decision and their destiny is in the hands of Gazans, just as you are responsible for your decisions and destiny in life.

They need good leaders who value human life and want to build a better future. They have chosen and continue to chose homicidal psychopaths as their role models instead.

Gazan's can chose to abandon the single minded premise that all Jews must die, Israel must be destroyed, and spending vast sums of money on arms, munitions and tunnels to pursue death and destruction.

If one-quarter of the money Hamas spent on their pursuit of death was spent on infrastructure, welfare and development, Gaza would be a prosperous place.

I do not buy the premise that Jews are stopping the UN / Quangos / NGO's from building schools, hospitals or infrastructure. Jews are not irrational - a successful, prosperous, friendly Arab neighbor is infinitely preferable to the current state of affairs.

If Gaza is a stateless refugee camp, what is stopping any of the citizens packing up and moving to Egypt, Jordan, or other Arab countries? Surely they would be welcomed as fraternal brothers?

Why is the Arab world so quiet about the current conflict?

Jim Peters

Psycho Milt said...

If Gaza is a stateless refugee camp...

There is no 'if' - the area is controlled by Israel (with cooperation from Egypt) and the people in it are stateless. They can't leave firstly because the borders are under the control of the people imprisoning them, and secondly because they're stateless and therefore don't have passports for any other country - hence the term 'open-air prison.'

Their gaoler (the government of Israel) is happy to make peace if the inmates agree to quietly accept their permanent imprisonment. Thus far, the inmates refuse peace on those terms, on the fairly obvious basis that the government of Israel has no right to imprison them. If you find it unreasonable that the people in Gaza refuse peace on those terms, ask yourself whether the government of Israel would agree to peace on the basis of Israelis moving into a reservation under the complete control of a Palestinian government.

Jim Peters said...

Sorry Mr. Milt, I do not agree with you.

For all intents and purposes, Palestine is a state. Like the Vatican, both nations represent themselves in the UN (with non-voting rights), issue passports that are recognised globally and are legitimised with recognition by other states.

Unlike the Vatican, Palestinians insist on constantly trying to murder their neighbors for ills real or imagined. The Vatican takes a more subtle approach of wallets and minds and long-term willing entrapment.

If you sincerely believe that Israel is a gaoler and the Palestinians are prisoners, then you and I should agree to disagree and leave it at that. I doubt we will change each others minds with our words.

Jim Peters

Anonymous said...

'darkies'

That's a cheap shot. Even for you Milt.

If you can't see the difference between the civilised and the savage, I feel sorry for you.

Mrs Danvers

Edward the Confessor said...

Yes, as the oh-so-sensitive and politically correct Mrs Danvers knows, the difference between civilisation and savagery lies in the sophistication of your weaponry. The way you choose to employ it is irrelevant.

Psycho Milt said...

If you sincerely believe that Israel is a gaoler and the Palestinians are prisoners, then you and I should agree to disagree and leave it at that.

The fact that Israel controls Gaza's coastline, airspace and most of its border, and is carrying out a blockade, isn't a matter of "belief," it's a matter of fact. If you're happy to ignore the facts, indeed there is no point in discussion.

If you can't see the difference between the civilised and the savage, I feel sorry for you.

Oh, I can see it - my question was an attempt to figure out whether you can see it. I'm still none the wiser for this answer.