Thursday, July 17, 2014


I have previously opined and still hold strongly to the view that David Cunliffe is the gift that keeps on coming for the National Party.    That National should do everything possible to ensure he remains leader of the Labour Party.

The latest poll which I blogged in an earlier post has caused me to rethink my position.     If things keep going the way they are then there is a real chance the Greens could find themselves as the main opposition party in Parliament.

That would be a disaster for New Zealand.   As a third party they can be explained away as an aberration of MMP.     As the senior opposition party they can't (even though they probably won't win an electorate seat).

As much as it hurts me to say so and for the good of New Zealand, Labour should dump Cunliffe.   Bring back Shearer or even Goff.   They are both honorable men.     At least with one of them at the helm Labour might reverse their soon to be terminal position in the polls and on 26 September.


Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Shearer yes but Goff is far from honorable.

This is the fellow who spat on returning Vietnam veterans, held hands with Yassir Arafat and leaked private comments of Dr Brash's from a private meeting (which comments had been passed to him by one of the many traitors within MFAT.)

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Is it true Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent are about to launch a new centre=left political party, aimed at capturing the votes of Waitakere Man?

"Fix NZ"

The Veteran said...

I would think that Chris Cairns and Lou Vincent are hardly on speaking terms.

Psycho Milt said...

If we get to an election in which Labour polls lower than National did in 2002 (22% I seem to recall), it certainly would look grim for them - the pleasure of helping to preserve Bill English's record may even be enough to get me to vote Labour this time...

Paulus said...

The present Labour Union Party is finished, and unless a new Labour Party comes out quickly then the Green Taliban will subsume the left wing vote at the next Election 2017.

The Veteran said...

PM ... my flabber is ghasted and Wussel won't like it but do the 'right' thing.

pdm said...

pm - I thought you always voted Labour. I am in shock!

Angry Tory said...

unless a new Labour Party comes out quickly

we've got a "new Labour Party". It's called National, it's the government, it's spend more on benefits and settlements, and borrowed more (and then spent all the borrowings on benefits) than any other government in NZ's history.

Understand this simple fact makes clear why NZLP is unable to get any votes in this election. What isn't clear at all is why - either within National or outside - no-one is pointing this out at all!

Hell even ACT's policy is now to spend every cent that National spends on welfare. Every red cent.

Barnsley Bill said...

Let me translate PM's comment for those of you who are new.
"I know we are shite but you were worse"

Angry Tory said...

Bring back Shearer or even Goff. They are both honorable men.

They are members of the Labour party.
By definition they are neither honourable nor men.

(*or if they are, they're sorry and won't do it again)a

Psycho Milt said...

I thought you always voted Labour.

Last time was 1987, and that was with the feeling I was making a mistake. Have electorate-voted Labour often enough since MMP came in but never given them a party vote.

I know we are shite but you were worse.

National weren't shite in 2002, they were just unpopular. Now it's Labour's turn. It's entertaining for a party's opponents in a 'Bash the Tottenham Yids' kind of way, but entertainment is all it is.

The Veteran said...

Angry Tory ... nice to know the GFC and two ChCh earthquakes were only figments of my imagination.

And of course there was always the 'Qu'ils mangent de la brioche' option.


pdm said...

Milt - interesting.

I have to confess to giving Rick Barker an Electorate vote (once) in the mid/late 90's and now wish I hadn't. Craig Foss gets my electorate vote but while an excellent electorate MP he has been a disappointment as a Minister.

I have never party voted National or Labour (never would pv Labour) since MMP came in.