Thursday, June 26, 2014

Hey, we've done that too.

Remember the brouhaha about the Cabinet Club?  You know, Labour's allegations of "cash for access to Ministers" and "exclusive dinners allowing access to the Prime Minister".  Yeah, those.

Most of us know that those who complain about things like that do so because they are donkey-deep in it themselves.

The Herald can now reveal that the Auckland businessman, who organised dinners where guests donated $1000 to sit beside former Prime Minister Helen Clark, approached the office of David Cunliffe about Liu's residency bid.
Most if us realise the Labour party are the biggest bunch of hypocrites that have ever walked the earth.  But a gentle reminder every so often can't hurt.

13 comments:

Barnsley Bill said...

Writing strongarm letters for visa hunters at the behest of donation hunters. This is going to burble away for months.
I see the Herald are hot on the tail of Steven Ching now. Excelent.

Psycho Milt said...

"The Herald can now reveal..."

Is this like how it could reveal that Donghua Liu paid $100,000 for a bottle of wine signed by Helen Clark? As in, it "reveals" stuff that some twat in the PM's office made up?

The Veteran said...

The Leader of the Opposition really needs to get his ducks in a row before sounding off least the hole he has dug for himself keeps getting bigger.

His letter regarding Donghua Liu starts "I have been approached by my constituent Donghue Liu ..."

Problem ... Cunliffe denies ever meeting Donghua Liu. How does that square with "I have been approached by". Either way Cunliffe is a liar.

And further "by my constituent Donghua Liu". It is reported that Liu was never one of his constituents. Second 'mistake'.

But it gets worse. It is now revealed that the approach to Cunliffe/Cunliffe's office was made by a Mr Steven Ching, money bagman for the Labour Party. Someone who organised dinners for the unwashed to meet Helen Clarke and charged each person $1,000 for the privilege. I have no problems with that. It's a legitimate fundraising tool. But I do have a problem with Labour bagging National for doing the same thing via their Cabinet Club initiative. Just how many ways can you spell hypocrite?

But back to the nice Mr Cunliffe.
If he had been entirely honest in the letter he wrote in support of Donghua Liu he should have started off with ....

I/My office have/has been approached by a Mr Steven Ching, fundraiser extraordinaire for the Labour Party (optional), seeking support in expediting .... etc

Only question remaining is did the letter attract some sort of donation in cash or kind to Cunliffe .... in Chinese society it would be seen as incurring an obligation.

just askin.

Psycho Milt said...

Problem ... Cunliffe denies ever meeting Donghua Liu.

Gosh, he claims not to remember having signed a form letter for a 'Donghua Lui' 11 fucking years ago, and not to have made the connection between the Mr Lui of 11 fucking years ago and the Mr Liu of recent notoriety? What a charlatan!

Watcher said...

Great isn't it. Liu signs an affidavit that Adolf would claim should be taken as the greatest level of evidence and now Lui is retracting on his sworn words.
He's gone from swearing on oath to bovine stools.

Nookin said...

Watcher
Have you got a link to any reference to Liu's affidavit? It surprises me that he would swear on the bible. In any event, the most I have seen is an equivocal statement (unsworn) attributed to him

Anonymous said...

"Liu said he paid "close to $100,000" for the prize, according to a signed statement dated May 3"

Close enough eh?

The Veteran said...

PM ... and the 'constituent' bit?

and the Ching bit ... you know, the cash for access bit?

Those in glass houses etc

smashing time eh

Barnsley Bill said...

PM, I guess it kind of hangs on how many strongarm letters he wrote for visa hunters at the behest of the cash harvesters that were working the asian community at that time. If he only wrote one letter for a chinese multi millionaire then forgetting is pretty poor form. But if he wrote dozens of them then I guess not recalling an individual amongst the herd is okay. But does rather ask a whole series of other questions around Stven Ching and a few others that are still involved.
And what the fuck is an MP doing writing letters for people he has never met? Sounds like there was quite a production line of letter writing going on with some of the clowns.

Psycho Milt said...

PM ... and the 'constituent' bit?

and the Ching bit ... you know, the cash for access bit?


What of them? Indeed we do have a situation in which both major parties have been selling residence to rich Third Worlders and thoroughly deserve to have it bite them on the arse.

In terms of specifics though, thus far we have on the National Party ledger two instances of actual, serving cabinet ministers engaging in actual, concrete assistance to rich donors, and on the Labour ledger we have some evidence-free allegations about nothing particularly untoward that have either been retracted or turned out to be not what was originally claimed. That the media have been running this as "both parties doing it" is a great credit to Mr Key's sleaze-merchants, but a sad indictment of the reasoning faculties of the nation's journos.

Psycho Milt said...

PM, I guess it kind of hangs on how many strongarm letters he wrote for visa hunters at the behest of the cash harvesters that were working the asian community at that time.

It hangs on whether he's stopped beating his wife yet? No, not going there.

The Veteran said...

C'mon PM ... nothing untoward!!!! pull the other one.

So when Cunliffe writes a letter for a non-constituent (someone he claims he never met) at the behest of Labour's Chinese Bagman its 'nothing untoward'.

You may believe it but clearly most don't and in politics it's the perception that counts ...

Watcher said...

"two instances of actual, serving cabinet ministers engaging in actual, concrete assistance to rich donors "

Add to that the large German amongst others and there now ample reason to say that special category residency should be canned.

What's it given us? The money is usually from bank merry go rounds. When a business is created there is little employment of NZ born Kiwis as other immigrants and fee paying overseas students are targeted. This results in more taxpayer spend as pressure is put on Departments to investigate those paying illegal wages to non residents.

Oh I forgot the reason for it to continue. Political donations. Silly me!