Monday, December 9, 2013

Get a life you parasitic rent a mob trougher.

 Minto whining he didnt make the cut for the Prime ministers trip to Mandela's long postponed exit!!!

Nothing to stop you from funding your own effort to pay your respects.

In the light as to how The Republic has descended into one of the least attractive world destinations, and some recent comments on same from you, perhaps you should feel fortunate.

In 1981 you and your rabble trampled all over my legal rights to see the best two rugby nations entertain me.
Sad you do not see any reason to intervene on behalf of the equally threatened people of say North Korea or Syria

Maybe your rabble made a difference but that estimate is akin to following the possibilities as to what were the ramifications of Enterprise, Saratoga and Lexington being absent from Pearl on December 6th 1941, we will never know, but it is an established fact you and your rabble treated a legal event with complete disdain to act out your complete disregard for the rule of law.

22 comments:

Tinman said...

GD, it was 1981 when this scum, accompanied of course by Black Power thugs, caused wanton vandalism to innocent people's property in the name of racism.

Around 1984 the bastard was busy ducking for cover instead of standing up for Timothy Bavadra's right to rule a non-racist Fiji.

Psycho Milt said...

So, we're sending a guy who officially "can't remember" whether he had an opinion on Apartheid or not to represent us, and the bloke who actually tried to do something to help Mandela gets to stay home.

Of course, taking Minto would be a tacit admission that the anti-Apartheid campaigners were right and every National MP up to and including the current PM was wrong, which would be very embarrassing. As Danyl points out, being on the wrong side of history is awkward.

BLW said...

"President Nelson Mandela remembered that when he was in his prison cell on Robben Island and heard about the cancellation of the Hamilton game in 1981 due to protests it was as if ‘the sun had come out’. When Mandela visited New Zealand in 1995, he made a point of visiting key New Zealand protesters, including many prominent Māori, to thank them for their efforts."

I hope you are glad you stood in the way of those who sought to stand in solidarity with Mandela - no doubt you would have been pleased to keep Mandela's cell that little bit darker on that day.


http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/nga-ropu-tautohetohe-maori-protest-movements/page-4

gravedodger said...

Where did you stand in 1981 Milt?

I saw Apatheid as just another problem up there with facism, communism, dictators, megalomaniacs of all colours that could wreak havock on unfortunates they ruled over.
I was pissed off that one of the great sporting clashes of giants in world sport was picked on by politically motivated protesters as a target while all other racial, political domination was ignored.

Take Minto's selective picketing of the Israeli tennis player, what a bullying pathetic effort while we go to any number of international sports and arts events regardless of who else is there.
The Moscow and the retalitatory Montreal olympic spazzes, really changed the world, not.
It was the Mujahudeen with US weapons that saw off the russian Red Army then the stupid US thought they could do better.
What changed the bloody world was Reagan, Thatcher and information freedoms that made the Soviet regime impossible to sustain with ignorance with a world media presenting news not opinion and propaganda.

pdm said...

Where has Minto been while Mugabe and his thugs have been raping and pillaging Rhodesia - now Zimbabwe for years.

Tinman - a small point but Timothy is spelled Timoci in Fijian and pronounced Timorthee.

The Veteran said...

PM ... get it right pse. The PM was 19 in 1981. He has stated he didn't have an opinion on the tour.

How does not having view on the tour equate to not having a view on Apartheid?

And just why should the PM take Minto anywhere? He's an embarrassment to decent New Zealanders along with his racist Mana Party.

Edward the Confessor said...

"The PM was 19 in 1981. He has stated he didn't have an opinion on the tour."

He was a university student with an intense interest in both rugby and politics (his goal in life ever since he was a little boy was to be PM). He cared, it's just that like all tories, he was fully in favour of ignoring the human rights struggle becoz of da wugby. An intelligent and principled decision.

Psycho Milt said...

The PM was 19 in 1981. He has stated he didn't have an opinion on the tour.


How does not having view on the tour equate to not having a view on Apartheid?


I was also 19 in 1981. As the PM claimed to be on the news tonight, I also was "strongly opposed to Apartheid." Funny then that he can't remember having an opinion one way or another on the Springbok tour of that year - because I didn't know another 19-year-old lacking an opinion on it, especially among students. What a remarkably unthinking or forgetful man he must be. I guess he was "strongly opposed to Apartheid," but not to such an extreme extent that it led him to do stuff like forming opinions on NZ's contacts with its representatives...

Where did you stand in 1981 Milt?

Outside Lancaster Park, shouting stuff at uniformed enforcers of Piggy's will.

And just why should the PM take Minto anywhere? He's an embarrassment to decent New Zealanders...

He seems quite a silly person, but I don't think we're well represented by a currency trader who didn't give a shit about Apartheid and some members of Piggy's government that backed Mandela's jailers - now that really is an embarrassment to the country.

Anonymous said...

I was well into my 20s in 1981 and I abhorred apartheid but wished the Rugby Union well. Is that one opinion or two? If it is two then I am doubly caring or indifferent depending on one's outlook.

Cadwallader

Edward the Confessor said...

"I abhorred apartheid"

Oh sure you did. Just not enough to take anything approaching to a stand against it or anything coz a da wugby. The PM apparently can't quite remember being on the wrong side of history. You can, and your mighty proud of it. Stay classy tories.

Anonymous said...

Fucking Leftist scum all think that just because 1981 was the greatest year of their life then other people should have given a shit too. Well they didn't. And why not? Because fuck you, that's why not.

Edward the Confessor said...

Um, no, it's just that normal people who were passionately interested in rugby and politics like the PM was can remember where we stood (surely even you can remember cheering on Ross Meurant from behind your mama's skirt). He's either retarded or a liar; your choice.

Psycho Milt said...

Anonymous at 4.21: why yes, the absolute equanimity with which you view this issue just shines through in your comment like a beacon...

What was most significant about 1981 wasn't that it was "great" for lefty protesters, but that it laid bare aspects of NZ society that people like Gravedodger were comfortable pretending didn't exist. For example, here's a quote from a Kiwiblog commenter:

My brother was in the red squad 1981 . Outside Lancaster Park on Wilsons rd one Saturday afternoon he came up against John Minto wearing a full face helmet , yelling , screaming and verbally abusing the Police. It was at that point my brother smashed Minto full on in the face ( between the gap in the helmet holding his baton horizontally ) several times. Minto went down like a sack of spuds. He was dealt to and then dragged off to the paddy wagon. I remember my brother telling me how Minto blubbered like a baby all the way back to Chc central.

My brother is now retired from the NZ Police but he still has that wonderful baton hanging on the wall in his home.


A lot of people had the actual nature of their society made clear to them at that time, and the country is a lot better off for it.

Anonymous said...

I was on the terraces at the Eden Park test watching the plane fly below me. I saw those scum protesters that were there just for a stoush with the police. They'd certainly disappeared by the time the game was over and we came out of the park.

I think it's telling that those the communists support are 'ok' (Mugabe, Syria, Libya, Venezuela etc.) but those the communists are against aren't ok. Just shows how Minto and his fellow travelers are not to be trusted - ever.

Anonymous said...

The tour protests were about a relative handful of leftist agitators looking for a cause, (to provide themselves with a sense of self-worth more than anything else) and supported by various rabble, thugs and gang members who's sole purpose at these "protests" was to have a crack at the cops.

Noel said...

"In 1981 you and your rabble trampled all over my legal rights to see the best two rugby nations entertain me."

I loved my rugby but this was one tour I deliberately did not attend.

We had a guy in our workforce whose loathing of the Apartheid regime was influenced during his work with the South African flying doctor service.

In fact he was the primary reason why the Hamilton game was called off.

Whilst the police were at the front gate he was smuggled out the back. He didn't steal the plane at Taupo but after he didn't show up at Ardmore it is no wonder the association was drawn.

He had earlier made it clear that he wouldn't be using flour bombs but would crash the plane. He was pretty passionate in his loathing and I believe many of his workmates, like a lot of silent majority who didn't want to be associated with the violence of the protesters action had a lot of sympathy for his principles.

gravedodger said...

By all means Milt, question how I viewed Apartheid but dont pretend to 'know' how I viewed it.

I will try again.
I totally divorced my feelings as regarded that race based article of faith held by the Afrikana ruling class in my wish that the ABs could play the Springboks.

I felt very similarly about the class system of India that condemned the "untouchables" to the slums while the Brahman elite treated and regarded cows as sacred.
I was appalled to the core of my soul that the Nazis had exterminated what the ruling elite regarded as subhumans.

The Show Trials of Stalin, the Siberian banishment to camps where how many froze to death? the Holomodor that not satisfied with the subjugation of the Ukranians, starved so many of them to death it is still arguable how many actually died.
The Chairman Mao great leaps that wreaked starvation and dislocation on so many of "his people" again impossible to measure.
The Catholic Church bringing salvation to starving millions in Sth America while having scant regard for non catholic citizens of those various shitholes.

So in my comprehension the Aparthied system was little different in that a ruling elite, The Boers, perpetrated a system of law and order that was no worse or better than much of the behavior all over the globe by embedded political rulers.

Yet in spite of all that garbage, every four years the world gathered to continue de Coubetin's dream.

That the US Negros had finally gained the removal of the excesses of segregation in the deep south in the 1960s, illustrated a hope of eventual reversal of such political catastrophe and here we are using disturbing examples of race based management of historical based problems that those very same crusaders for equal rights for all who claim the 1981 tour protests as a badge of success, embrace as acceptable.

All through my life I have accepted that if world peace and acceptance of human rights is to flourish, such aberations of political mismanagement must be subsumed in Sport, the arts, entertainment and cultural difference or such lofty dreams will never be fulfilled.

Mr Minto has never considered the rights of those who do not fit with his jaundiced view of the world and that fact condemns him.

Anonymous said...

1981 proved one thing. NZ has the same quota of people that will polarize and get violent as any other nation. Mandela is gone and Minto and Meurant will too. In our rush to judgement it pays to remember we will all give an account on the day of the great 'wash up'

Paranormal said...

What gets me is that the leftist rabble who so vocally opposed apartheid in South Africa are generally supportive of apartheid in New Zealand.

Apartheid, which means 'separate development', was originally conceived as the races developing in their own way. It seems that's what the Maori separatists want as well. Go figure?

Anonymous said...

"All through my life I have accepted that if world peace and acceptance of human rights is to flourish, such aberations of political mismanagement must be subsumed in Sport, the arts, entertainment and cultural difference or such lofty dreams will never be fulfilled."

Yah forgot trading sheep meat exports for principles.

Psycho Milt said...

By all means Milt, question how I viewed Apartheid but dont pretend to 'know' how I viewed it.

When I wrote "NZ society" I wasn't referring to Apartheid in South Africa.

Anonymous said...

Minto should go to South Africa...then be left there.

Let him experience fully the wonders of the 'new' South Africa he helped create.

EXOCET