Sunday, December 22, 2013

A QUESTION

Who, presumably in the Mayor's Office, leaked the now proven non-story regarding Cameron Brewer and his trip to Australia to the media.

Mayor Brown perhaps?    Anything to take the heat off .

My advice to that 'Gentleman' (borrowed from Oliver Cromwell) ......

Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.   In the name of God, go".

21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Your'e not an Auckland ratepayer
Begone.

Judge Holden said...

Despite his and your spinning and obfuscation, Brewer is still a dodgy hypocrite. He admits himself that he left the jolly off the register. Why do you think that's a non-story? It's exactly what Brewer was demanding Brown's resignation over. Now he's been sprung all of a sudden the rules are unclear and he's blubbing.

The Veteran said...

Anon ... interesting take on the merits of the argument ... NOT.

Psycho Milt said...


... now proven non-story regarding Cameron Brewer...

Proven non-story?

According to RNZ:
"In 2011, Mr Brewer took a four day trip paid for by broadcaster Mediaworks and received rugby tickets from SkyCity but failed to declare them on his annual Register of Members' Interests statement by 30 June 2012."

From the Herald:
"Mr Brewer and Dick Quax, who yesterday said "unless the council code of conduct has any kind of meaning there has to be serious consequences", were among the 11 councillors not to file a return."

The Veteran said...

Holden ... crap. Brewer e-mailed ACC Electoral Officer, Bruce Thomas, details of the trip on 8 Sep 11 as follows ....

“Bruce, please declare… 1 trip to Port Douglas courtesy of Mediaworks, Four nights in august. Value approximately 2k. Secondly, my partner and I are in SkyCity box for opening night and game tomorrow. Cost unknown. Please let me know what further information you require. Thanks Cameron”.

So, by your twisted logic, if the Council Officer delegated to compile the register fails to include data given to him by Brewer then it's somehow Brewer's fault ... have to say that even by your standards that is weird.

But I see you avoid answering the question .... who leaked the non-story. Surely Brown isn't so dumb as to have done the deed himself? Has to be one of his little helpers with the active connivance of Brown in a failed attempt to muddy the waters.

Brown is a dead man walking.

Watcher said...

"Brown is a dead man walking.

The Urban dictionary describes "dead man walking" as

"An employee who is certain to be fired in the near future."

I seem to remember some comment that Auckland councillors cannot sack the Mayor.

The Veteran said...

Watcher ... correct, but if Brown had any sense of right and wrong he would have resigned by lunchtime.

Look at it this way. If John Key had cheated on wife Bronagh, screwed a bird on the Cabinet table, pressured the James Cook into providing a tryst parlour free of charge and failed to declare the freebies on the Member's Register ... do you honestly think he would be PM today .... of course not.

So what's the diff in the lexicon of the 'Left' between Brown and Key?

Easy, Brown is Labour = good while
Key is an evil capitalist deserving of nothing.

Judge Holden said...

It never showed up on the public register and Brewer never corrected it = not a non-story. Brewer is a dodgy hypocrite - as is his ACTy chum quackers. And Brewer had such ambition too, what a shame.

Judge Holden said...

And if infidelity is your issue, Don Brash. Just sayin'.

The Veteran said...

Holden ... Crap again. Brewer declared it, Brown didn't. I'm surprised that even you can't spot the diff.

Even more surprised that you would waste political capital in defending Brown when clearly most of his acolytes are deserting him.

Answer the question Mr apologist you. What would be your position if Key had been outed doing what Brown did?

The silence is deafening.

Psycho Milt said...

Look at it this way. If John Key had cheated on wife Bronagh, screwed a bird on the Cabinet table, pressured the James Cook into providing a tryst parlour free of charge and failed to declare the freebies on the Member's Register ... do you honestly think he would be PM today .... of course not.

Leaving aside the bizarre stuff about "pressuring" hotels for free rooms (how would that even work?), I expect he'd be suffering a series of embarrassing media stories and the jeers of hypocritical opponents, but would be prepared to sit it out unless caucus pulled the rug from under him. Caucus probably would pull the rug, but the Mayor of Auckland is directly elected and doesn't have a caucus.

Watcher said...

"...but the Mayor of Auckland is directly elected and doesn't have a caucus."

Which raises an interesting question.

Would all these detractors allow an another election if Brown resigns or claim that their man who had the next highest number of votes be automatically promoted.

At that point Anon 23 Dec 6.47 post would be an relevant argument.

The Veteran said...

PM ... re free rooms. So just how do you think Brown did it?

Some might have it that the so called prestige of his office (and his ability to be bought) was sufficient subtle pressure.

and, there is no doubt in my mind that Key would have resigned of his own volition.

Some on the 'left' make the mistake of applying their morale compass (or lack of) to those on the 'right'.

Generalisation I know but can I suggest that the Brown affair may have had an impact on the latest opinion poll which saw National gain three points and close in on its election high at the expense of Labour .... guilt by association and all of that.

Of course the other reason might be the avalanche of good economic news which keeps coming and coming and ...

Anonymous said...

Rank has it's privileges. Free hotel rooms for a mayor is probably one of them. But his misuse of the privilege in not declaring them has compromised his responsibilities, which come first.

The cleanest thing would be for him to 'git'. If Auckland was to re-elect him then fine.

The rest of NZ could then gain respite from tales of his buttocks a-blur in various locations.

George

Psycho Milt said...

PM ... re free rooms. So just how do you think Brown did it?

How did a highly influential politician who spends a lot of money on hotels come to be offered free stuff by hotel chains? It's a mystery...

I'm curious though - do you believe National MPs troughing it in Sky City's corporate box "pressured" Sky City into it, or does that explanation just cover the way politicians you don't like get free stuff?

...the avalanche of good economic news which keeps coming and coming and ...

A mere five years after the GFC, the economy is starting to pick up again - a superhuman achievement from our heroic leaders, indeed. Of course, if economic conditions really were attributable to government policy, Michael Cullen would have to be considered the greatest finance minister of recent times, so you might want to rethink the idea...

The Veteran said...

PM ... your problem is that, Brown doesn't spend "a lot of money on hotels" in Auckland (apparently he spends zip) ... and that's the nub of the issue compounded by the fact that he didn't declare the freebees.

re Cullen. Clearly you haven't bothered to read the Treasury report National was presented with when they assumed power. If National hadn't altered the policy setting of Labour then NZL would have ended up as the South Pacific's Greece or Spain or .....

Your revisionist view of history would do David Irving proud.

Paranormal said...

PM - "Michael Cullen would have to be considered the greatest finance minister of recent times"

Oh rilly? The man who, with the best economic terms of trade seen in a generation (at that time), managed to:
- leave the coffers empty with a decade of deficits
- bungling such as the repurchase of a defunct railway?
- stuffing up the tax system with differential rates that incentivised all sorts of rorts

If that's economic genius then god preserve us from the left ever getting control of the treasury benches again.

Psycho Milt said...

You can't have it both ways. If you want to credit the government for the currently improving economy, you have to be consistent about it: Cullen's years as finance minister were characterised by surpluses, low unemployment and massive debt reduction, while English's years have been characterised by deficits, high unemployment and massive debt increases. Are you sure you want to use economic conditions as a measure of government success?

Anonymous said...

Those years of surplus were in spite of Cullen, not because of him.

George

Anonymous said...

In spite of Cullen.

Ah so it is true.
Trough feeder have no influence on the country's economy.

It's all spin.

What was the latest. Take first home buyers out of the equation and house prices would drop substantially

Anonymous said...

Maybe, George. But that's not PM's point. The economy *did* boom when Cullen was in *charge* of it. Your argument means that when GDP growth reaches 4% next year it is in spite of English, not because of him.

Nick