Saturday, September 21, 2013

DAVID CUNLIFFE UNMASKED

So he can't walk on water.   In fact he can't even tell the truth.   It seems the 70% of his colleague peers who judged him unfit to lead the Labour Party have been born out in spades with the revelation here that the claim in his  c.v. that he did voluntary work at the Auckland City Mission was a lie.  

The article goes on to detail other episodes where Mr Cunliffe may have been economical with the truth.

If Cunliffe cannot be trusted to tell the truth about himself then how can we believe anything he says.

EtC et al will claim this is all part of the GRWC.   For myself I prefer the views of the 70% of his caucus colleagues.

21 comments:

Edward the Confessor said...

This is an asinine beat up (someone can't remember seeing someone else 25 years ago) and your hysterical reaction to it demonstrates how scared you are.

Anyway, you don't really want to start a discussion about lies and ethical conduct do you? John Banks and John Key and Nick Smith and Murray McCully and Bill English and Gerry Brownlee.... And they're just the Ministers caught lying or throwing people down stairs or rorting the system. Then there's Pansy Wong, Richard Worth, Donna Awatere, Owen Jennings, Aaron Gilmore and..... Tories covering themselves in glory.

The Veteran said...

EtC ... first out of the block and desperately trying to muddy the water.

Fact ... Cunliffe admitted the lie.

Fact ... 70% of the Parliamentary Labour Party don't think he is fit to be their leader.

fact ... I agree.

end of story.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Vet

As someone said elsewhere:-

"He's the best muppett they've got."

On the other hand, I agree with Contessa that this story is a beat up. Compared with the lies told by Obama and Rudd about their respective back stories, Cunliffe is an angel.

The Veteran said...

Adolf --- you agreeing with EtC

wash your mouth out

Psycho Milt said...

Fact ... Cunliffe admitted the lie.

You seem to be using a very idiosynchratic definition of the word 'fact.' The only 'facts' presented in the article are that someone who's worked at a place since the mid-1990s doesn't remember someone who did the occasional bit of work there in the 1980s (well, duh), and that Cunliffe is removing the claim that he did some work for a different place from his CV. You're free to draw whatever inferences you like from that, but they remain inferences, not "facts."

Fact ... 70% of the Parliamentary Labour Party don't think he is fit to be their leader.

And here you're using a just-plain-wrong definition. Just under half the caucus marked Cunliffe on their ballot, either as first or second choice. Your claim is simply untrue.

Edward the Confessor said...

Basically, Vet, there's universal agreement that this is a joke. The usual nutbars and shills are screeching, but that's what they do. I thought you were more reasonable than that. Sorry I overestimated you, but to be fair to me it's a pretty easy thing to do.

The Veteran said...

Milt ... reasoned response deserves another.

Cunliffe has removed the claim of his having worked for the Auckland City Mission from his c.v. ... fact. He would only do that if it were untrue. Untrue vs lie is semantics pure and simple.

My understanding is that Cunliffe received only 10 first preference votes. 10/34 = 70% of the Labour caucus didn't have him as their first choice.

Factor in the second preference votes and less than half his colleagues saw him as fit to lead the Labour Party.

Hardly a ringing endorsement and one might be forgiven for asking why.

Is it beyond the realms of possibility that his peers might have just figured it out ahead of Labour Party rank and file members? Seems like that to me.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Am I the only person wondering why a normally dormant press gallery seems to be ganging up on Cunliffe?

It's not as though they are renowned for being in the pay of the Nationl Party.

Judge Holden said...

"It's not as though they are renowned for being in the pay of the Nationl Party."

Only a total retard could not see that the whole lot of them have had a massive crush on Key for the past decade. They obviously have a thing for smarmy liars who get off on being filmed peeing in bottles.

The Veteran said...

Holden ... nice to see you are right on song with this post about a smarmy liar who got caught out 'doctoring' his c.v. and whose caucus had worked him out well ahead of rank and file Labour.

Who am I to give advice but I would have thought even the most ardent Labour apologist might have figured out that their/your fixation with John Key is not particularly helpful to the cause.

But then again, when you are playing 'me to' with Wussel and lurching to the left in order to counter their success with your supposed voting demographic it ain't good to have your leader exposed as a serial liar.

Judge Holden said...

Is a serial liar one who can't remember how many Tranzrail shares he owns, or can't remember where he stood on the Springbok tour, or can't remember personally ringing his old chum to offer him a job, or who says that WFF is communism by stealth and then keeps it, or who says climate change is a hoax and then changes his mind, or are you talking about something else?

The Veteran said...

Holden ... off topic and please don't threadjack on my blog. We're talking about your 'him' and the padding of his c.v. and why 70%of his caucus colleagues don't trust him enough to give him their vote?

You are getting to sound somewhat shrill ... politics is a tough game and if your man can't stand the blowtorch of scrutiny then he should get out of the kitchen.

But having you argue his case is like being slapped with a wet bus ticket.

Judge Holden said...

Oh silly me sorry, this thread's about smearing Cunliffe, and no position dissenting from that, or pointing out your rank hypocrisy is permitted. Check.

The Veteran said...

Holden ... you got it.

Liberty said...

"this thread's about smearing Cunliffe "
What a load of twaddle. It is about informing the public that the current labour leader has told a load of
porkies . We know it is quite normal practice for labour MPs to tell porkies. but the difference this time is the man is a bit inept . He wrote them down.
As usual the leftie media have buried the scandal.
Where as if a National MP had been so fool hardy. The media would have been in such a spin they would have wet themselves.

Psycho Milt said...

Well it's about claiming that Cunliffe told a load of porkies - not the same thing at all.

As usual the leftie media have buried the scandal.

It must take a special kind of genius to consider "burying" something consists of publishing it in a newspaper...

Liberty said...

Psycho Milt
Lets wait and see if that Pinko apologist Campbell puts Cunliffes feet to the fire.

Psycho Milt said...

Oh, I'm sure Campbell will drop everything for a juicy story about whether Cunliffe really was a member of Forest and Bird or not...

Judge Holden said...

Liberty has quite remarkable typing skills for a 2 year old. Unfortunately, however, she has the temperament and reasoning ability of a child her age.

Liberty said...

Judge Holden
Do try and stay on topic.
It must be very difficult as a Labour party minion. trying to justify the current labour leader after he has made a pigs ear of his first week.
There is no need to resort to abuse.

Judge Holden said...

"There is no need to resort to abuse."

Then why resort to it, young lady? Your father would be very disappointed.