Friday, February 15, 2013

I DISAGREE

With the decision of the NZ Defence Force here to allow members of their Overwatch Group, a peer support group for members of the NZDF gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender community, to march in uniform in Auckland's Gay Pride Parade.

Can I make my position very clear.   I am not against gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgenders serving in the military.   That is the reality of this day and age.   But this is a step too far.   The military quite rightly bans the wearing of uniforms at Party political events for obvious reasons and, to my mind at least, there is a certain synergy between that and the Gay Pride March.

By all means march under your banner if you want to but you should not be wearing the 'Queen's' uniform (no pun intended).

11 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Defense Force defaulters that authorised this disgrace should be charged with 'Conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline'

George

Noel said...

Are they in breach of a specific Military Law?
" conduct to the prejudice" was used in times past when the authorites couldn't get the original charge to stick.
Bit like Officers in the past ordering underlings to use violence on a soldier when he was non compliant then in another instance been on a tribunal deciding cases of "striking a superior officer".

Anonymous said...

The majority of past Officers were true blue National supporters and by default didn't need to wear their uniforms.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:10
Which makes on wonder if that is the reason the MoU of Vietnam Veterans was so watered down from veteran expectations.

The Veteran said...

Noel is spot on .... not an offence. Just a stupid decision.

Anon 10.13 ... the MoU was negotiated between the Labour Govt and RSA/EVSA. Veterans had a expectation that it would at least follow the recommendations of the HSC. It didn't. One glaring difference was the question of free annual medical assessments for VVets. The Govt refused that and instead offered a single one-off examination focused on eligibility for a WDP (see clause 17 of the MoU).

It took a change of Govt for free annual medical assessments based on the Well Man check to be approved.

Anonymous said...

The Veteran said
"It took a change of Govt for free annual medical assessments based on the Well Man check to be approved"
I said
"Which makes on wonder if that is the reason the MoU of Vietnam Veterans was so watered down from veteran expectations."

Yup case proven

The Veteran said...

Anon 12.30 ... the view of RSA/EVSA going into the negotiations was was that the MoU should be negotiated on a cross-party basis.

Labour would not agree and their negotiating position was always to get away with the least amount of concessions possible. Against that backdrop John Campbell (RSA) and Chris Mullane (EVSA) did as well as could be expected remembering that the Govt held the purse strings.

I agree the MoU was not perfect from a VVets perspective but it was never going to meet all expectations including those from a small cohort of VVets who thought they should be individually compensated with Lotto type payouts.

THe incoming National led Govt improved on what was on offer in the MoU and additionlly agreed to a revamp of the Travel Concession payment to all veterans receiving WDP payments at the 100% + level and put in place a much fairer system based on a reimbursement regime calculated at .225c/km.

Barry said...

Our "defence force" has not been a defence force for years. It couldn't defend NZ for even five minutes

Anonymous said...

"Bit like Officers in the past ordering underlings to use violence on a soldier when he was non compliant then in another instance been on a tribunal deciding cases of "striking a superior officer"."

Where is your evidence?

Noel said...

Anon 10.14
"New Zealand's Vietnam War" McGibbon.
Actually he doesn't appear ashamed given the soldier in question was to suffer simplex partial seizures which ended his Army career.
Later another accidental blow elevated them to complex partial seizures which resulted in a failed marriage and job prospects.

Anonymous said...

Barry said...
Our "defence force" has not been a defence force for years. It couldn't defend NZ for even five minutes"

If that is true then it is in breach of the Defence Act 1990 and I suggest you inform the appropriate authorities.