Wednesday, September 21, 2011

Labour Snookered Yet Again

While Labour dithered about trying to make like it was opposed to the legislative change legalising covert police surveillance of really bad bastards, John Key has seen them off yet again.

You see Labour was going to have two bob each way. They were making a hell of a lot of opposing noise to try and get few votes from the terrorist demographic but all along they knew they had to support the bill otherwise they would be branded as being soft on crime and in the pockets of the crims.

Well bugger it! Before they had a chance to show support and get a few votes from real New Zealanders, the gummint has cut them off and announced it has the numbers without Labour.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

15 comments:

Graeme Edgeler said...

The Herald headline is "Govt has the numbers to push through surveillance bill". The Stuff headline is "ACT won't support 'fixit' law under urgency".

When you read the articles, I think Stuff's headline is a better reflection. See the Herald article which says:

"the Act Party announced this afternoon they would support the bill at its first reading on the condition that it would be subject to 36-hour select committee scrutiny.

"If the Act caucus was happy with the bill as it came out of select committee, we would support it," parliamentary leader John Boscawen said."


So:

1. National can't do it under all-stages urgency (Labour wanted Select Committee scrutiny as well).

2. ACT hasn't promised to support the bill further than Select Committee (same as Labour).

The Herald article to which you link continues:

""The Act Party is not prepared to give the Government a blank cheque," Mr Boscawen said of the select committee condition.

He said the party did not think the bill was needed to bring serious criminals to justice.

"We don't believe that is correct.""


Which is to say: John Boscawen just called John Key a liar, and undermined the major rationale Key had to offer for the bill.

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Psycho Milt said...

And in any case, suppose National did have the numbers to abuse Parliamentary urgency yet again for the sole purpose of trampling the rule of law into the dirt? This is an awesomely great thing how, exactly?

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Inventory2 said...

Best of all Adolf; if the Bill has it's First Reading on Tuesday then goes to the Select Committee for 36 hours, the Third Reading of the VSM Bill can happen on Wednesday!

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The Veteran said...

Tricky issue for those who would pretend they believe in law and order. Oppose the Bill and 40 major crims walk free including a raft of drug (P) dealers.

I can understand the Maori Party, Mana and the Greens. ACT and Labour less so. Strange bedfellows.

True colours perhaps.

Psycho Milt said...

Why is it that political partisans will find excuses to support the most reprehensibles abuses of power these weasels come up with?

Oppose the Bill and 40 major crims walk free including a raft of drug (P) dealers.

More accurately, oppose the bill and 40 people accused of crimes thanks to illegally-obtained evidence may walk free if the courts decide the seriousness of the crime doesn't outweigh the serious problem with how the evidence was obtained.

Support the bill and you shit on the rule of law and the rights of the citizen. I can understand National and Labour's enthusiasm for it, the only mystery is that the minor parties are actually showing a bit of integrity.

Anonymous said...

PM is right. Living in a free society means that you have to live with some crap some of the time. Govts are inherently untrustworthy and you give away freedom at your peril. I have nothing to hide but that fact is mine to know and everyone else's to wonder about (assuming they have nothing better to do).

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Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Anon 1:06

We'll have no more of that horse shit around here, thank you.

Nick said...

Tricky issue for those who would pretend they believe in law and order. Oppose the Bill and 40 major crims walk free including a raft of drug (P) dealers.

Not at all Vet. In fact, that is almost 100% incorrect.

Anonymous said...

Why aren't you gloating over the spectacular 0.1% quarterly growth figure Adolf? Surely you've got some spin to impart on how well we're doing? I mean that's almost a half of one percent annualised. We'll catch Australia in no time. Well done Key!

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Anon 6.51

You make it so easy.

Just have a look at the last two quarters aggregate.

Anonymous said...

And spin he does! Thanks, you never disappoint.