Wednesday, August 24, 2011


This is nothing more than a coincidence.

Just after I posted on the Fonterra contretempt yesterday an advert for "ORGANIC HONEY" crossed my awareness.

Honey is collected by bees, stored in the comb in a hive that can be man made or natural in a hollow tree, and to make it to market, collected by an aparist who may be amateur or professional.

A hive can be a hierarchy of some 60 000 bees that roam uncontrolled over the territory surrounding the hive collecting Nectar from flower sources and honey dew from plants, stored in a stomach for the flight back to the hive where it is retrieved by other bees and stored in prepared combs as a food bank.

If the hive is in a manmade structure set up by an apaiarist, then it can be removedfrom the hive and spun out of the comb by centrifical force and packaged for sale.

My basic knowledge of "organic" as a marketing aid claims that the product has been prepared under strict criteria as to use of "artificial" interventions in the process of production, and processing that makes it somhow "special" and usually implies a more healthy product.

Question; as the majority of the collection of the raw nectar and all the initial processing up to the storage in the Comb is done by a pretty independent swarm of unpaid workers, "who the hell is monitoring their activities to ensure the normally quite onerous, criteria for organic status is being complied with"?

Just curious.


robertguyton said...

The queen, obviously.
Organic honey gets its status because no synthetic chemicals are used in the hive to treat bees for ailments, such as varroa. Losely speaking.

robertguyton said...

2 'o's

gravedodger said...

As many zeros as you wish Robert it is still a crock.
Further erosion of the idealistic aim of 'organics' as better than, whatever.

As for varoa, the wild hive we have relied on as a source of polinators until last summer has been destroyed and their hollow tree has been stripped of nearly all evidence.
Bumbles are still active but will they be enough.
Rang a local apairist to inquire about locating Hive/s on my property and he said his hives had been severely damaged by varoa last year and he was a little pessimistic about the future. The strips at the hive entrance were no longer giving protection.

Are you aware of an "organic solution"?

PM of NZ said...

GD, taking your reasoning one step further - with the same rampant 'organically uncontrolled pollinators' pollinating all that nice nitrogen fixing clover in the nation's dairy paddocks, there can be no such thing as 'organic' milk.

So Fongterra is right in not paying over the odds for such a falsely promoted product.

Tinman said...

GD The Varoa mite is "organic".

gravedodger said...


Pity no one thought to tell the bloody bees about that advantage.

mojo said...

... and in the 'fruit bowl' of NZ, some get the more than the pip (like get really ill and have the paint stripped off their cars) because the predominant high frequency organic spray is calcium polysulfide - the non confineable areosols of which are: hydrogen sulfide; sulfur dioxide and sulfurous or sulfuric acid.
Now this region has had the worst health statistics of any region in NZ since this practice began ... child asthma, respiratory irritation, upper respiratory tract burning, conjunctivitis, blood noses, migraines, overwhelming tiredness, endemic prostate cancers, coronary issues ... and all from late July to May.
This product was a significant component of mustard gas and by design is toxic ... grandfathered through by ERMA and proactively condoned by our environmental protectors, the Regional Council.
Coincidence or cause and effect??
'Organic' does not mean what most believe it to ... cadmium and arsenic also fit the 'organic' criteria for use, albeit public reaction to such would probably be substantive - if they knew.
This 'organic' game is but a marketing ploy with the aim of maximising returns ... never mind the surrounding communities.