Thursday, December 2, 2010


I suspect that many of you, like I, took time out this afternoon to watch the Remembrance Service courtesy of TV1.

I thought it was done with dignity and style. A uniquely 'Kiwi' occasion. While I am not overly religious I thought having the Rev Tim Mora as the 'MC' was an inspired choice. He captured the mood of the occasion.

And it was the West Coast at its best. New Zealand but different and all the better for that.

Today we remember the 29; we especially remember the families. But the Coasters are one big family and our thoughts are with each and every one of them.


Anonymous said...

If you are not Christian or "religious" you are out of your deapth in this.

I don't understand why non religious people still do these things in a christian church. Christianity is not some fluffy feel good new age concept. It warns of a final judgement where justice will be done but offers a solution and comfort to the repentant. It is a wonderful thing indeed.

If the service didn't preach the gospel and warn of the coming King the clergy stuffed up and sold the mourners short. I would rather they were offended and challenged than left with some wishy washy concept of all being OK because God, whom they may not have any concept of or relationship with, will make everything OK.

The Realist said...

I'm not religious, but I think you have a very narrow view of Christianity.
I was amused to hear one speaker refer to "the terrible accident". He should have said it was an Act of God.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Realist, your comment indicates your vierw is even narrower.

The Veteran said...

Anon 7.54 ... methinks you are trying to make something out of nothing.

I suspect that many people attending or watching the service were not practising christians.

Nevertheless and I repeat the whole occasion was done with dignity and style and people will have taken comfort from it each in their own way.

And just why you think that people should have left both "offended and challenged" quite escapes me.

Many would have been 'offended' by the loss of the 29. Why would you want to pile offence on offence?

Anonymous said...

"Many would have been 'offended' by the loss of the 29. Why would you want to pile offence on offence?"

Because salvation is on offer and that is the biggest deal. It is the Church's great commission so when you go into one or encounter clergy in this setting you should be confronted with it in some manner. If it were not so the mourners could have the mayor do something secular and leave the "religious experience" out of it.

This terrible disaster is the first death we all face. There is real comfort in knowing we need not face the second. If no one walked away yesterday wondering about the bigger picture and what's it all about the clergy stuffed up.

Christians will (or should)understand this, the rest of you can bag me all you like but when Benny the bouncer at the pearly gates can't find your name on the list, being offended on 2/12/2010 will be the least of your worries.

The Veteran said...

Clearly then Anon we agree to disagree.

That's our privilege.

Anonymous said...

Yes Vetran. Our fundamentals are different I guess but that doesn't make me better than you. Just so I'm not perceived as a Luddite I'll admit I'm no saint, I've only lost family - during my life - to old age and absolutely love the West Coast because it is so down to earth and the pub hours are flexible.

See you at the gates.

Anonymous said...

I found it refreshing to see and hear the predominance of western culture of rememberance and loss, rather than what is usually thrust upon us.

Mrs Danvers