Tuesday, June 22, 2010

Will Goff rebuild Labour or shoot through?

"Mr Goff said the pair were friends. He didn't have any problems with Mr Carter seeking advice from Miss Clark and said he expected the advice he received would have been the same as his own."

There is only one thought running through Carter's mind.
How to keep his nose in the trough.
That would have been Clark's advice because that is what she knows best.

If Phil is happy with that it says a lot more about Goff than Carter.
What Goff should realise is that he is backing the wrong horse.
New Zealand doesn't want a Labour in it's current form and is very unlikely to change that view in the future.

By not dumping Carter immediately, he is basically saying that under his leadership, he is happy to preside over a party that will only ever be good for <30% of the vote.
He knows that Carter is only the tip of the iceberg of Labour's problems.
That is a recipe for years of irrelevence.

The obvious conclusion is that he no longer cares.
He is going through the motions until he can arrange his own golden parachute, jump ship and leave the Dear Leader Party to stew in it's own juice.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Goff's comment is fair enough but its not a good look for Goff, Carter or Clark.

Goff's problem is that he's come up through the ranks when Helen was in charge and I suspect he got there because he was perceived as controllable. If he was his own man and couldn't be relied on to tow the line Helen wouldn't have gone anywhere near him. The chickens have come home to roost in that he's no leader and his own colleagues know it. Labour is leaderless because Helen didn't empower anyone.

FAIRFACTS MEDIA said...

I think the comment from Goff about Carter making comments he doesn't believe in is most significant.
Goff is effectively calling Carter a liar.
This should be sufficient for Goff to sack Carter.
But by not acting this way, it soes show a few things.
Lying is acceptable within Liarbour.
Goff is scared to act.
Or, as you suggest, he can no longer be bothered.

Anonymous said...

The obvious conclusion is that he no longer cares.
He is going through the motions until he can arrange his own golden parachute, jump ship and leave the Dear Leader Party to stew in it's own juice.


Its been pretty obvious from day 1 that this was a 4-5 term Nat/ACT govt, and that Goff was just a placeholder until he too resigns at the next election.

I don't see what this surprise is all about

NZ doesn't want a Labour government and should never have a Labour government ever again

kevin said...

or... could he be keeping the seat warm for helens 'cum back'?

Psycho Milt said...

...he is happy to preside over a party that will only ever be good for <30% of the vote.

Not really. Labour's position right now is comparable to National's position 2 years after Clark's govt took over - back in 2001. As you recall, hopeless leader Bill English, presiding over a team of discredited has-beens from the 90s, took National to something like 26% of the vote in 2002. And yet in 2008, many of those same discredited has-beens (including English), got Cabinet posts in another National govt. No reason to assume the public won't prove to have similarly short memories for Labour's discredited has-beens.

Danyl said...

No reason to assume the public won't prove to have similarly short memories for Labour's discredited has-beens.

This is a constant refrain from your co-bloggers - that various left-wing parties 'will be destroyed once and for all' and the right will emerge victorious. It's a prediction that requires a total ignorance of politics and history - although given the calibre of the rest of their posts that seems about right.

Lou Taylor said...

Milt and Danyl
No one thinks Labour will be destroyed for all times but under their current form they are destined to struggle to get over 30% of the vote for a very long time. They will be hoping that MMP will hang around in its current form as List seats are going to be their lifeline.
One day the truth, that the world is sick of paying for their way of doing things, will dawn on them.

Then someone like Goff would have a chance of leading a relevent Labour Party. In the meantime he is stuffed.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

No Danyl - there's a constant refrain from one persistent anonymous commenter.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

No Danyl - there's a constant refrain from one persistent anonymous commenter.

Danyl said...

One day the truth, that the world is sick of paying for their way of doing things, will dawn on them.

See, that's just not how things work though. The world/the people won't get sick of Labour - they'll get tired of National in another term or two and vote Labour back into power.

Lou Taylor said...

That thinking worked last century Danyl.
The west can no longer afford for fuckwits to be in charge.

Danyl said...

That thinking worked last century Danyl.
The west can no longer afford for fuckwits to be in charge.


Right, because our current challenges are so much more existential than the USSR and the Nazis.

Anonymous said...

It's a prediction that requires a total ignorance of politics and history

It's a prediction that assumes at least a small motivated group of the right will actually gun the fucks down

Happened in Yugoslavia, Albania, Russia, lots of places.

Very little reason why it couldn't happen in NZ.

I mean, if you look at the shape of the economy - NZ is basically the last old-style communist state left.