Tuesday, March 23, 2010

If You Believe This .........

You'll believe anything.

Here's what you get when meddling regulators take complaints from people's competitors.

The note to the widow was sensitive and not at all intrusive.

Adolf's bet is the bitch agent from Mangawhai thought she had a sure listing and suddenly someone else was on the scene. Why didn't the reporter tell us whether the house had since been listed for sale or not?

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

The "bitch agent" is really a Property Manager. Which isnt the same thing.
Spooner broke the rules. No excuse.
At my fathers wake we had two agents turn up. Fair enough in that they knew my mother but I thought walking around the house, discussing it and appraising it while we were having the wake was in poor taste...

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Anon.

A property manager would(I think)still benefit financially from gaining a listing.

The pinged agent appears only to have sent a polite and respectful letter. It's not as though she was jumping up and down on the coffin shouting "Look at me! Look at me!"

This looks to me to be quite over the top.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

I'd be interested to know how many people, if any, associated with Harcourts were part of the complaints hearing committee.

I'd also like to know how much time the respondent was given to respond and how long the committee took to deliberate, along with the specific parts of the regulations which are deemed to have been breached.

I smell a big rat here.

If a polite letter to a recently bereaved person has now become a crime then we are in serious trouble in this unctuously politically correct and mean little country.

Bilbo said...

A polite and respectful letter to someone whom she doesn't know, has never spoken to and has no connection to at all, aside from wanting to make some money out of her in a rather vulnerable time and get her foot in the door so to speak.

I would take the exact same action as this womans daughter did. What exactly is over the top about it?

JC said...

The description "pond slime" seems to fit this agent.

JC

Harpoon said...

Adolf. If the bereaved person had received general marketing material through the mail, no problem. However, that was not the case. The effect of the estate agent's actions amounted to an attempt to take unfair, wrongful, and financial advantage of a person at their lowest ebb.

Anyone who supports that is indeed pond slime.

Psycho Milt said...

...an attempt to take unfair, wrongful, and financial advantage of a person at their lowest ebb.

Presumably it's the "at their lowest ebb" part that was the problem, because the rest of it seems like a normal day at work for a real estate agent...

Dex said...

Wonder if Adolf realises that the 'Bitch agent' from Mangawhai is actually the widow's daughter and that along with the 'polite' letter the agent also sent a bunch of valuations etc.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Harpoon and JC, with respect to the latter only, you are raving.

Dex, yes, I can read. So what?

All of you seem to ignore the fact that the agent was asked by the widow's neighbour to make contact. She did so in an arms length and sensitive way.

I suggest you wait to read the letters section in the North Shore Times over the next few days and you might get some real surprises.

WAKE UP said...

"the agent was asked by the widow's neighbour to make contact. "

What business was it of hers?

Anonymous said...

Oh for fucks sake, it's not like the agent took a shit on the lounge room carpet is it, you bunch of soft cocks. And the Herald published her photo. I don't think the punishment fits the crime here ,as there was none. Put her jail for being a little creative and trying to make an honest living.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

God help YOUR neighbours WAKEUP, if that's your attitude.

When my neighbour went into hospital I didn't ask 'what business is it of mine?' before I jumped the fence each day to water her roses, ferns and fruit trees.

The Original Harpoon said...

She is part of a group that wishes to be seen as a profession. The group has rules, she broke them, she has been punished. She needs to 'HTFU' as you NZ bloggers are so fond of saying. Tough luck, end of story.

So what if envious colleagues dobbed her in? That does not exonerate her actions. It is her colleagues who have judged her, and if a group like real estate agents (only marginally less slimy than used-car salesmen and insurance agents) found her conduct wanting, then I don't think she deserves much sympathy.

The rules of a profession are usually fairly simple, and are well known by each of its member.

As a doctor I cannot have sex with my patients, a lawyer cannot defraud his clients, and apparently real estate gents cannot tout for business. If you believe (or want us to believe) that her actions were driven by altruism, then you are being ingenuous or disingenuous.

The Original Harpoon said...

All of you seem to ignore the fact that the agent was asked by the widow's neighbour to make contact. She did so in an arms length and sensitive way.



This is a bizarre defense of her actions. Would the medical disciplinary tribunal be expected to treat me less harshly if a patient's husband asked me to have sex with her.

She knows the rules - she chose to break them and alleges that she was requested to by a third part. I recall that this type of rationalization did not provide relief to a policeman driving the former PM at high speed. This is how everyone is held to account - "if somebody told you to jump off a cliff would you do it"?

I question the motivation of the neighbor. If she knew the widow well enough to think thatshe would welcome an unsolicited (and thinly disguised) solicitation for business, I am quite sure that she would have known the daughter's occupation. YMMV

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

The Original Harpoon

"and apparently real estate gents cannot tout for business."

Here you have unwittingly hit the nub of this argument. I believe you will find, on careful examination of 'the rules,' that there is nothing in the new regulations which prohibits touting for business - in any way what so ever. The disciplinary decision was just plain wrong.

I invite you to show me where it is written.

John Q Public said...

"As a doctor I cannot have sex with my patients, a lawyer cannot defraud his clients, and apparently real estate gents cannot tout for business.."

Yet you can happily kill them without punishment in this country, just don't fuck them.

Perhaps the problem lies in the rules, not the behaviours.

The Original Harpoon said...

@ Adolf

It was not at all "unwittingly". That is why I said "apparently" - I do not know the rules and inferred them from the various news articles. If she has not broken the rules she has remedies.


@ John Q Public

I assume you mean the lack of recourse to tort remedies for negligence in NZ. I would be very happy for the ACC scheme to be abandonded. The problem for kiwis is that it would inevitably lead to more healthcare spending.

WAKE UP said...

There are a lot of industries surrounding death; should real estate be any different? What if we came to expect the call?

WAKE UP said...

To which I hastily add: I wouldn't want to be the real estate agent involved, just as I have no desire to be a mortician.