Thursday, February 18, 2010

Israel pisses on their Western backers (again)

This is one of my pet hates. Back when the Israelis were caught stealing NZ passports for their hit squads to use when assassinating Arabs, I was regularly travelling to and from Arab countries on an NZ passport. Since then, pretty much nothing of what I think about the Israeli govt or Mossad is printable.

Now they're at it again, this time pissing on the UK and other Western backers of Israel. Their response says it all:

...the Israeli foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, broke his government's
silence saying there was no proof that the Mossad was behind the killing.

In other words: "You got no proof it was me, assholes!"

The Brits are co-operating with the Dubai authorities to try and uncover that proof. Here's hoping they find it.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

come on psycho - what country does own up to stuff their covert operatives get up to - think SIS NZ? No comment - no comment.
Israel does what it needs to to survive and I say good on them.
Jimmie

KG said...

OOOH! The horror! An Israeli intelligence agency (allegedly) used foreign passports! Why, they even disguised their operatives! gasp! And it simply must have been an Israeli operation, because everybody knows only the evil jooos go in for that kind of thing.Nobody else could possibly be responsible.
Why, they were probably behind all those Russian journos being murdered over the past few years too.
And the Kiwi passports found in the hands of radical Muslims in Indonesia a couple of years ago were probably stolen by joos too! Everbody knows that.

grow up Milt.

big bruv said...

I wish the rest of "the western" world would deal with these rag head terrorists in the same decisive fashion as the Israel's.

Paul G. Buchanan said...

Using the identities of English and Irish nationals residing in Israel was not the best cover, and the clearly European characteristics of the hit team also was (seemingly) a bit sloppy. But then again, perhaps that was part of the message being communicated since Mossad was going to get blamed anyway. After all, it has a record of patience, persistence and a very long reach when it comes to dealing with its sworn enemies.
As for the target--it could not have happened to a better guy.

Psycho Milt said...

...the evil jooos...

Yes, any failure to adopt your own romanticised and laughably sycophantic view of the Israeli govt could only be accounted for by anti-semitism.

And the Kiwi passports found in the hands of radical Muslims in Indonesia a couple of years ago...

...were presumably stolen by a criminal terrorist organisation, not a supposedly-friendly foreign govt. Are you attempting to equate the two?

As for the target--it could not have happened to a better guy.

Maybe - I don't think it's relevant to the issue of the Israeli govt carrying out criminal acts against friendly foreign countries though.

singularian said...

Umm, Houston we may have a problem

Stand by.

Psycho Milt said...

Possible, but unlikely. The PA has a record only of incompetence, Mossad has a record of successful operations exactly like this one. It also has an excellent record of making good use of the Arabs' ongoing interest in killing each other.

Anonymous said...

hmmm so it doesn't matter who did it psycho its still Israel's fault?

This is an attitude crossing the line between fair opinion and anti jewish/israel bias.

If you don't like Israel and Jews be honest (like the Iranian mullahs & Adolf Hitler)about it. I can't abide someone who puts on a pretence of putting across a reasonable and balanced opinion, when really their true views can be deducted by reading between the lines.
Come on be honest not Labour like

Jimmie

KG said...

"...were presumably stolen by a criminal terrorist organisation, not a supposedly-friendly foreign govt. Are you attempting to equate the two?"

The key word there is presumably. Thanks for illustrating the point Jimmie just made. :)

Supporting Israel unequivocally against barbarian school bus bombers is "laughably sycophantic" now is it?
I'll regard that as a compliment then.
Like a hell of a lot of leftists Milt, scratch the caring kumbaya oleaginous surface and the anti-Jewish underbelly is revealed.

Anonymous said...

Good on Mossad. The more towel heads they get the better.It never ceases to amuse me the denial of so many people. Like how many non Muslims were involved in 911.

If the position was reversed and whitey was the terrorist all whiteys would have to travel on separate aircraft or arrive 4 hours before departure and be strip searched before boarding.


Blinked idiots that wont realise the Muzzies are laughing at you taking their side and defending them.
They like me know your nutbars

lastmanstanding

Barnsley Bill said...

As Mr Buchanan noted, this was an extremely sloppy endeavour (if indeed Israel is responsible).
The only logical explanation is that they were sending a message that you cannot hide from Mossad.
PM's assertion that Israel is pissing on its backers is highly debatable. As the UK government has been determined to turn my birth country into Shitistan and seems to be the incubator for death cultists in Europe I can only think the Israelis are trying to stir a bit of trouble for Labour UK as an added bonus.

Psycho Milt said...

Call me old-fashioned if you like, but having a foreign govt forge my country's passports so its death squads can pretend to be my countrymen when they carry out their hits just doesn't fill me with a warm glow of goodwill towards said foreign govt. No amount of blather about Jews and "towel-heads" alters that fact.

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

You've ALL missed the obvious answer. One gang of towel heads contracted the Yids to do the job on the other gang of towel heads, all the time providing the detailed local information required to pull off the hit. Thus number one gang of tpwel heads can plausibly deny any involvement while they shed crocodile tears of grief at the funeral, along with the other towel heads.

Neat eh?

Anonymous said...

A murderer who lives by the sword gets done by the sword and Milt complains about the false 'Made in Ireland'-or wherever-stamp on the sword.

These people kill killers; do you think they lose sleep over indignation about false passports? Do you honestly think you are in danger by having a genuine passport?

George

KG said...

"Do you honestly think you are in danger by having a genuine passport?"
Of course he doesn't George--it's just a convenient hook to hang his anti-Israel views on.

Paul G. Buchanan said...

Milt: If we take a broad view of things, all forms of warfare are a type of organised crime, by states preferably, but criminal in any event (think murder, plunder and pillage on large scale, things that are criminal when undertaken by non-state entities on even minor scale but which are an unfortunate aspect of war that is accepted under jus in bello doctrines).

Intelligence gathering and covert operations such as targeted assassinations are simply an extension of war. Hamas has declared war on Israel and vows its destruction. The target boasted of his killing of (at least) two Israeli soldiers. If indeed Israeli agents conducted the operation, it is justified as a military objective. That may seem specious and avoids directly addressing the use of "false flag" identities, but it is simply a matter of war. That is why there will be little official fuss about the loss of this human exemplar.

I should note that this operation could well have had the encouragement, if not complicity of the Syrians as well as UAE security authorities, who may have seen benefit in the elimination of mutually bothersome trouble-maker. The message sent by the hit, even if indeed the product of an internecine quarrel amongst Hamas factions or ordered by an Arab agency, is focused squarely on Hizzbollah and the Iranian Revolutionary Guard who were the target's most ardent sponsors and ostensible protectors.

WAKE UP said...

If you recall the idiot John Minto's harrassment of Shahar Peer here, back in January, you may find the following (lifted from Pamela Geller's "Atlas Shrugs" blog) not entirely irrelevant:
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"Increasing the Security Dilemma"
Embattled Peer stuns top-seed in Dubai":
(Israeli tennis player) Shahar Peer increased the security dilemma surrounding her presence in the United Arab Emirates by producing a stunning 6-2 7-5 win over the top-seeded Caroline Wozniacki to reach the quarter-finals of the Dubai Open.
The former Israeli soldier is the first woman athlete from her country to compete in the UAE and all three of her matches have been scheduled in the easier-to-protect outside courts.
But after victories over Yanina Wickmayer, the 13th seed, Virginie Razzano, last year's runner-up, and now Wozniacki, the world number three from Denmark, the pressure to take the risk of scheduling her on the centre court has increased.
With Hamas having alleged that a founder member of its organisation was assassinated last month, and fears of tit-for-tat reprisals, Peer has been operating with guards everywhere, separate changing facilities, cameras filming everyone coming in and out of the arena, and secret interviews at hidden locations.
But once again she played with an icy intensity redolent of someone having a cause beyond herself and, apart from slightly wavering in the second set, she was more consistent, more tactically varied, and more calmly determined than the favourite.
-------------------
Why did I post this? To show how litle some people really know, beginning with John Minto. Milt, it's up to you if you want to be classed with him.

Psycho Milt said...

Do you honestly think you are in danger by having a genuine passport?

In danger, no. Dragged unwittingly and unwillingly into Israel's bullshit, yes - quite honestly and accurately so.

...it's just a convenient hook to hang his anti-Israel views on.

Blah blah Joooos blah towelheads blah - still nothing substantive to contribute, then?

The target boasted of his killing of (at least) two Israeli soldiers. If indeed Israeli agents conducted the operation, it is justified as a military objective.

Equally, his killing of the soldiers was justified as a military objective. I still fail to see how any of this excuses Israel for dragging us into the disputes arising from its illegal colonisation of the West Bank. Regardless of military objectives, if Israel is not our enemy it should not be forging our passports for use by its hit squads.

Paul G. Buchanan said...

Milt:

I agree with you first sentence at
7:05PM. I disagree with the second and third sentences, which digress from the larger point, albiet in different directions.

KG said...

"Blah blah Joooos blah towelheads blah - still nothing substantive to contribute, then?"

Lol! One wonders what you would regard as "substantive", other than doing some Arab arslicking Milt-style and ranting about "illegal occupations".

Oh, and I don't see anywhere here I referred to 'towelheads'.
Just another slice of psycho dishonesty is it? Taken out of context? Too nuanced for peasants to get the underlying irony?
You're a dishonest weasel with some limited entertainment value.

Psycho Milt said...

True - your schtick is "Jooos" and "barbarians." It was the other right-wing ranters with the "ragheads" and "towelheads." So sue me - you all start to blend into each other.

Re "substantive:" you haven't had anything to say other than that someone who doesn't like the Israeli govt acting criminally against his country must have something against Jews. It's such a pointless and stupid implication that no sensible answer is warranted.

Johnboy said...

I am quite happy to see the Israelis dealing to the Muslims Milt.

Lets be honest it will save us having to do it at some time in the future if we had the ability which we don't.

It really gets down to the old socialist rant about the bloody yanks who saved our sorry arse's in the last big one. I'm happy they did or I would not be here because my Mum and Dad would have been murdered by the Japs.

I am equally happy that the Israeli's are doing the job for us now cause if we had to rely on our own people as exemplified by a gutless socialist turd like you we would be fucking doomed mate.

I am looking forward to the day when Israeli strike aircraft do the deed in Iran. Write us another joke sheet when that happens you sad little tosser and I might give you another twenty five lines on why you are a pathetic little prick.

Anonymous said...

Hang on, I have a NZ passport too.
How is it I don't feel "Dragged unwittingly and unwillingly into Israel's bullshit, yes - quite honestly and accurately so."?

Do I need sensitivity training?

All I remember is some spooks flogging passports, being knicked for it and dragged into court. Probably nothing compared to what they were dragged through [for screwing up] when they got home.

George

Psycho Milt said...

Hang on, I have a NZ passport too.
How is it I don't feel "Dragged unwittingly and unwillingly into Israel's bullshit...


Perhaps because you weren't moving in and out of the countries where the killers were likely to be using those passports at the time, George? Do trouble yourself to actually read the posts before commenting.

Johnboy: yes, yes, we should be grateful the Israeli govt is carrying out criminal acts against our countries because it's all in the great cause of killing Muslims. You're a fuckwit.

Anonymous said...

God Milt why do you bother? It's like trying to have a conversation with a psychotic mass of jelly that's learned how to swear.

Judge Holden