Sunday, January 17, 2010

Sea Shepherd victories


I knew I still had this somewhere. Back in 1994 I was living in Hamburg and Paul Watson visited in the MV Whales Forever on a fundraising tour. I took a couple of photos of Whales Forever moored at Landungsbruecken, including this one of its "kill markings." There are actually 10 boats listed as sunk: 2 from Iceland, 2 from Norway, 2 from Spain, 1 from Taiwan and 3 unspecified pirate whalers.

Back then I took the photo because I was thinking "Wow, crazed ecoterrorist mutants" but these days I'm feeling a lot more sympathetic to Sea Shepherd, since they're the only ones actually doing anything about illegal commercial whaling in the southern oceans. It's worth keeping in mind that Sea Shepherd sank these whaling/fishing boats by scuttling them in port without their crews on board-as opposed to the Japanese whalers, who sank a Sea Shepherd boat on the high seas with the crew in it, in water that would kill the crew in minutes, and who buggered off leaving others to clean up. There's only one lot of terrorists and pirates out there now, and they're representing the Japanese govt.

NB: I'm heading off on vacation for a couple of weeks, so responses to any comments on this thread will be sporadic.

15 comments:

Anonymous said...

Do us all a favour and don't bother coming back.

pdm said...

Anon that is not nice - are you Property Zealot because you don't have the guts or nous to use a name or psuedonym when making sarcastic comments.

Personally I have no sympathy for the terrorists on Sea Shepherd and their supporters.

Not that I am a fan of the Jap Whalers either but with this they are like the Israeli's responding to terrorist provocation.

anonymous nutbar said...

Geez Milt, get over it for fuck sake!

Anonymous said...

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Andrew W

PM of NZ said...

'illegal commercial whaling'

Where and by whom?

In your eyes maybe, not in mine.

The only current illegal activity in the Southern Ocean is that of the SS et al with their piracy.

ps Enjoy your holidays.

Sinner said...


Personally I have no sympathy for the terrorists on Sea Shepherd and their supporters.


Right. supporting terrorists is illegal.

Terrorism Supression Act 2002.


A person commits an offence who recruits another person as a member of a group or organisation, knowing that the group or organisation is—
(a) a designated terrorist entity; or
(b) an entity that carries out, or participates in the carrying out of, 1 or more terrorist acts.
(2) A person who commits an offence against subsection (1) is liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 14 years.


Were I you I'd delete this post. Frankly the attorney general would be must better placed going after supporters of Sea Shepherd than against Whaleoil!

KG said...

You didn't need to put up another post Milt--most of us were already convimced that you just don't get it.

Mark said...

If you justify this lot then you can justify France's decision to blow up the Rainbow Warrior in port.

Psycho Milt said...

On doddery old dial-up:

PM of NZ: so far, the only act of piracy has been carried out by the Japanese.

Re illegal commercial whaling: IWC has declared commercial whaling in the southern ocean off-limits; Japan is engaged in commercial whaling. It's not difficult to grasp. Certainly, the world's govts accept Japan's "scientific research" figleaf because they don't consider the issue worth serious aggro with Japan, but there's no reason Sea Shepherd should accept it.

If you justify this lot then you can justify France's decision to blow up the Rainbow Warrior in port.

Uh, yeah, right. Should Sea Shepherd ever plant a bomb on a ship in port and kill one of its crew, you'll have a point.

Anonymous said...

I've spent enough of my life in the Southern Ocean to realise that whales are not rare, on the contrary. I have enough nous not to eat whale meat or any other marine mammal nor to eat fish or shellfish from where these parasite riddled critters are concentrated. I don't wish to have a short life like the whalers of old. Nor do I like to see the antics of the Watson crowd romanticized. They are the biggest pack of lying bastards God put breath into. They are not terrorists because they do not strike terror into the heart os the Japanese seafarers, rather they just kicked a turd on a hot day. The reaction they got after a day of trying to foul propellors, foul the ships working decks with some vile concoctions, shining lasers into the crew's eyes was their own doing. They got put out of action and now they are crying to mummy--and every chip-on-his-shoulder bastard who will listen.

They are dickheads. If they didn't want the apples then they shouldn't shake the tree.

George

OECD rank 22 kiwi said...

Them Whales is tasty.

Heine said...

I thought the law allowed the rights for the Japanese to hunt whales for scientific purposes. The Japanese do this - and some people think it is their duty to protect these so called "cute" animals.

SS are just some trendy busybodies with too much time on their hands. Since when is destroying private property a good thing?

Sinner said...

If you justify this lot then you can justify France's decision to blow up the Rainbow Warrior in port.

Which part of "lefty terrorists bad, security forces good" don't you understand?

Pity the Japs don't have the same guts as the Frogs

Mark said...

No guarantee that it will not ever happen.

The person who died in the Rainbow Warrior died after returning to the ship after safely being off the ship.

You can't tell me Sea Sheppard knows if all personnel are off the ship, or someone on the crew might try to get on board to stop the sinking and die in the process.

This is an organisation that has on several attempts rammed Japanese whalers on the Southern oceans and it supporters think it's a good idea to get the NZ navy to sink the whalers.

By the way which story of the Andy Gil do you believe, at last count Sea Sheppard has made four different claims to what occurred.

Matt said...

Is there any way you could upload your pictures of Whales Forever to Flickr? I'm a keen Sea Shepherd follower and would be keen to see them