Wednesday, November 18, 2009

SCRAP THE ETS!!!

I feel like it's campaign 2008 all over again.

Of course, only one party campaigned on scrapping the ETS in 2008.
ACT Leader Rodney Hide today launched a scathing attack on the Emissions Trading scheme, vowing to have it scrapped and to pull New Zealand out of Kyoto Agreement.

"The scheme involves strict penalties on New Zealand businesses and farmers who allow Co2 emissions - which includes farm animals belching," Mr Hide said.

"Today we held a piece of street theatre in Auckland's Cornwall Park involving an unfortunate farmer being whipped by a broom-wielding witch as he hauled a trailer bearing a cheque for $5 billion dollars made out to Russians and signed by Helen Clark on behalf of New Zealand taxpayers.

"That's the ETS money that will be sent to the UN - which will, in turn, pay it to the Russians because they have large forests. New Zealand farmers alone will pay $1,200 million into the scheme.

"This is sheer lunacy - New Zealand emits 0.02 percent of world Co2 emissions. Nothing we do will change the world's weather.

"The ETS scheme will cost the nation tens of millions of dollars, cost 22,000 Kiwis their jobs and not do anything to mitigate global warming.

"We need smart green policies, not this madness. The Germans and Canada have said they will not wreck their economies to meet Kyoto obligations, and nor should we.

"We need to grow our economy - not shrink it with this nonsense. Only a country with a strong economy can engage in smart green polices to protect our environment. ACT will scrap both ETS and Kyoto," Mr Hide said.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

In this context the words "sheer lunacy" ought be gold-plated! Never has a scam achieved so much poinless traction!

Faversham

bez said...

Pity that Rodney Hide is a compromising, toothless blob of hot air, i.e. a politician.

End of the day, he hasn't lived up to his promises and principles, backing down every step of the way.

Anonymous said...

Sic 'em Roddo! Go for them, boy! Hunt them awaay back to Cherry Farm.

George

David Baigent said...

Act may well have a good claim for adhering to their principles over the ETS and the stupidity of global warming as a physical threat.

But they are lacking in the common sense required to deal with "consumer preference" for food items and the economic threat of free choice of country of supplier.

Grow up and watch the theatre.
You must know that Key was a denier prior to his run for PM.

He is much smarter than the big mouths that make so much noise, and his performance to date makes you look stupid.

Lucy said...

"He is much smarter than the big mouths that make so much noise, and his performance to date makes you look stupid."

But who is he working for? Not NZers thats for sure. His performance has been spectacular for someone employed by the UN. But not for someone who has NZ best interests at heart.

Flashman said...

This ETS business looks set to end National's dream run in the polls.

The smart thing for Key to do is to announce a deferment any action in this area "until the country's economic circumstances improve" - or equivalent prevaractive spin.

Anonymous said...

David Baigent sums it up and Lucy misses the point. It doesnt matter what we or Key believes. Its what consumers on the other side of the world believe. How can we grow our economy if our goods are boycotted.
Thats the reality.
Lets hope that the growing groundswell against AGW and the ETS continues to gain momentum and the world turns its back on it.
Becuase I'm afraid thats the only way its going to change

Andrei said...

It doesnt matter what we or Key believes. Its what consumers on the other side of the world believe. How can we grow our economy if our goods are boycotted.

They wont be - thats just spin like the rest of it.

As we all know the loudest beaters of "the world is melting we have to reduce out lavish lifestyles" drum have the most lavish lifestyles of all.

Anonymous said...

Righto, we won't be able to sell shit to the world because we don't have an ETS.

If you were a Pom living in London and you went to Tesco to buy some Kiwi Lamb would your decision to purchase NZ Lamb instead of South American Lamb hinge on whether NZ had an ETS? In other words, do you stand at the meat counter and wonder “hey, does NZ have an ETS ‘cos if it doesn’t I won’t be buying its Lamb”.

Get real folks.

Anonymous said...

"If you were a Pom living in London and you went to Tesco to buy some Kiwi Lamb would your decision to purchase NZ Lamb instead of South American Lamb hinge on whether NZ had an ETS?"

Umm pretty much yes, and their governments will assist them with tarriffs. If you don't understand that then you're a stone-cold moron. It ain't rocket science.

Judge Holden

mawm said...

It seems that Tescos would make the decision for the client and not stock any NZ lamb. You live in a free world........

Anonymous said...

Judge Holden is deluded. The shopper says "does NZ or South America have an ETS? No, no country has an ETS on food."

Are you seriously suggesting that the shopper then concludes "so therefore I'll buy the South American lamb" ????

That would be a very weird shopper

Anonymous said...

The ETS will break NZ's economic back. What stupidity, and there is nothing anyone cane do. At least Canada have the guts not to sacrifice the future of their economy for the sake of saving face. Will National look back down the barrel of time and regret such cowardly foolishness?

Mike said...

Er NO. That's why John Key is PM and you are not.

Key is a risk taker and this is a necessary risk at this point.

Anonymous said...

The elements of risk is weighing up what you stand to lose alongside what you stand to gain. There is no point in taking the risk if they are equal. With respect to the ETS, what do you stand to lose if you're a farmer? Your farm. What do you stand to lose if you're a politician? Your seat perhaps, but mostly other people's money. What do you have to gain as a farmer? The same old price taking, increasing bureacracy, and the daily graft that is farming. What do you have to gain as a politician? The smug fellowship of the select few that just know that history has saved for them this planet saving era; the friendship of the handwringing psychotics who are fearful of life.

What the dickens happened to politicians that lead and have conviction? Leadership is contagious, it gets people to follow you. The only political leaders I can see that command respect live in Poland or the Czech Republic. The ones round here are bloody poll-driven middle of the road rabbits.

George

emmess said...

Are you seriously suggesting that the shopper then concludes "so therefore I'll buy the South American lamb" ????

That would be a very weird shopper

If that freak did exist, he or she would mostly be a vego anyway

Gerrit said...

To the fearmongers promoting an ETS because "they wont trade with us", I say ISO 9002.

Remember that pearler. You would not be able to do business without certification so most rushed out and at great cost and inconvenience became certified.

And those that did not went bankrupt?

No siree, they are still around and does anyone in busineness or their customers ask about how relevant all those nice certificated so proudly hanging on walls in the reception area are today?

No, they just want to know quality, price and delivery.

ETS is but the latest scam that follows on from the failed ISO scams in the past.

Heine said...

Having balls and conviction from our main parties was over a long time ago. Now it's about polling, shoring up support and populism.

ACT had the guts to oppose it because we bloody well knew it was the right thing to do, and we trusted National to show some brains on it and listen to the other points of view.

If you support the ETS we'll need a lot more than an oil boom to save the economy. At least I will finally have that excuse to make Czech Rep my home permanently. Vaclav Klaus is the kind of leader I am very happy to support!

Flashman said...

Gerrit - nails it. Who can ever forget the "ISO 9000" BS of the 1990's?

NZ is a food producer. There is a global shortage of food. And if China can sell tinned salmon reared in cadmium-enriched toxic waste pools, then NZ will always be able to sell its excellent-quality produce overseas.

ETS needs to be called for what it is - a global scam that subsidises odious regimes of kleptomanic sociopaths like Putin.

KG said...

"ETS needs to be called for what it is - a global scam that subsidises odious regimes of kleptomanic sociopaths like Putin.'

Yup

Anonymous said...

I see there has been a load of leaked emails from HadCrut, one of the epicentres of the Global Warming scam. Go to WUWT & take a look:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/19/b ... /#comments
Basically the alarmists tricks of the trade have been exposed & more information is coming to light every hour. There is a download of 62MB if anyone wants to look at things closer.
http://ftp.tomcity.ru/incoming/free/FOI2009.zip
Happy reading.

Anonymous said...

Its what consumers on the other side of the world believe.

Nope. All that matters for NZ now is what the PLA thinks. They'll buy everything we can make - at whatever price they decree.

Oh, you wanted to sell into Europe? Well funnily enough "consumers" don't matter there either, nor do politicians. If you think Rompuy and Barroso won't smack a huge "food mile" tax on NZ food - whatever we do with our ETC you've go another thing coming - after all we have a tiny quota going into the EU as it is.

Send food to the US? Under Omaba? You've got another thing coming. OK, under Palin in 2016?
We all know what that will take. And the fucking lefties will keep singing "send the boats away" until the benefits are stopped because there's no fucking money left to pay for them all.