"Look, who knows what the price of carbon will be tomorrow, next week or in twenty years time. We just don't know".
"Look, who knows what the price of carbon will be tomorrow, next week or in twenty years time. We just don't know".If the useless prick was doing his job the price of carbon in 20 years would be what it is really worth. Which is nothing (with the possible exception of the diamond allotrope which has some useful industrial properties plus an inflated value due to its property of dazzling women and thereby making them more compliant)
I have just blogged about how many of the VRWC actually support Key and their view of climate change.Even that most loyal of Gnats, Adold expressed his sceptism this morning!Certainly National does not have the support of its netroots on this one!Oh, btw, the adult ratin g of my blog seems to have gone, but I see I am not havings my posts updated on the blog roll.
There can be no doubt that if it fluctuates in any way that adversely affects a treaty settlement the taxpayer will have to hand over more money.
You missed the better part of the quote which was about Treasury."They are wrong. They can't tel what the deficit will be in December so how do they know what carbon prices will be in 2030 or 2040?"Priceless.
"They are wrong. They can't tel what the deficit will be in December so how do they know what carbon prices will be in 2030 or 2040?"Indeed...they also advised government that Kyoto would bring a half billion dollard windfall!Got that wrong too!
Adolf: after John Key told the reporters that Treasury's numbers are nonsense and that they aren't even competent to monitor the deficit, did any of the journos ask him why he's continuing to fund Treasury with money taken from us? Here we see once again Key's actual leadership qualities, as opposed to the propaganda version. He expresses a complete lack of confidence in a major govt ministry, but proposes to do nothing about it other than continue paying them. I wouldn't want him for my boss, let me tell ya.
You would if you worked in Treasury.
Adolf, how can a former money trader correctly state the price of something tomorrow is unknown but then put a price on it arbitrarily?
There should be only one issue here - geting rid of Kyoto. I hope that this government has the balls to not sign up to Copenhagen. It will cause more harm worldwide than any CO2 emission. I fail to see how destroying the Western (now Oriental as well) Industrial nations will help the starving hyperfertile Africans.
"I fail to see how destroying the Western (now Oriental as well) Industrial nations will help the starving hyperfertile Africans."It's not supposed to, is it? The purpose is to increase taxes, centralise power and destroy national sovereignty, make greenies feel good and Al Gore a billionaire.
Nick Smith et al should be placed under arrest and tried for treason, industrial sabotage and fraud.His rabbiting-on about credibility at Copenhagen is utter insanity. He was elected to look after the populace of New Zealand, not to ingratiate himself with fellow world bureaucrats. His actions in raising an open-ended debt on behalf of the present and future NZ population is criminal. There is no benefit only indebtedness. The concept that we can change the weather by paying tax is the work of cranks and lunatics--or it is sinister. I am unaware of any engine that will run with its bearings full of sand, yet that is what this cabal of climate sycophants is attempting to foist on us.What lunacy does it take to make kiwis angry enough to demand the immediate removal from office of lunatics like this?George
"What lunacy does it take to make kiwis angry enough to demand the immediate removal from office of lunatics like this?"Stop funding soap operas on PravdaTV?
I am so very very sorry I voted for him.What was I thinking!!!!!
Key and Smith appear to be determined to break NZ's economy.If they pass the ETS it won't be long before taxes go up and this lousy government is turfed out of power.
Nick Smith would go up in my estimation if he now pulled the Bill.Right now there are too many unknowns.Copenhagen looks dead in the water so what's the rush?
Copenhagen looks dead in the water so what's the rush?We give you bros some dosh, and you kick Hone Harwaira out eh? Simple. Sure he can manage the Te Tai Tokerau portfolio somewhere down the line: just get him out.
I do not share your optimism that Copenhagen is dead. I certainly wish it was. The Nats are mesmerised by the entire Global Warming nonsense and nothing will curb Nick Smith's desire to sign up. Sad eh?
"...They can't tel what the deficit will be in December so how do they know what carbon prices will be in 2030 or 2040?"..."However, this doesn't apply if we want to whip hysteria about ACC funding...
We already have an ETS in law. This was a bill to amend that law. Dropping the bill with change sweet FA
Let's not forget that the ETS was originally conceptualised by the smartest guys in the room at Enron and who then successfully pitched the idea to vice-president Gore.Truly the ETS is the largest financial scam in recorded history.And NZ is like one of those daffy little old ladies who once queued up to "invest" everything they owned into Provincial Finance - because that nice Mr Meads appeared on television and said they should.NZ needs to stop the insanity and call the ETS for what it is: an unclothed emperor, a bare naked scam.
Key is a complete fool for embracing this ETS crap, and deserves to be booted out of office.
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