(Fundamentalist right wingnuts should now get out their violins.)
What more vindication could you get for his inclusion of the Maori Party and ACT in government than these results?
Support among Maori voters for MP's deal with National has moved up and now greatly exceeds support for a deal with Labour. In fact, it is a whopping 68% as ordinary Maori people realise they have gained more from one year of a loose coalition with National than they and their ancestors gained from seventy five years of being patronised by Labour.
While the Labour Party fusses around minor issues like alleged privatisation of ACC and water supply and a few useless night classes, one of their traditional power bases has moved away and it is unlikely to return. Adolf wonders how long it will be before one or two trade unions look over the fence and realise where their bread really is buttered.
Most interesting is the effect this result will have on the sewer mouthed and evil minded racist, Hone Harawira. He may well have organised the hikoi which led to the formation of the Maori Party but the party has now left him well behind. Only six percent support for the man who would leave because he doesn't like the support arrangement with National.
The sooner he goes, the better.
It is Adolf's belief that influence over the Maori Party has moved from the ratbag element epitomised by Mr Harawira to the rising commercial middle class which guides Maori Corporations and Iwi. The new Maoridom and Maori Party embodies all the traditions of the National Party and few of today's yesteryear Labour Party. It's just that Maori dress them up in tikanga and kaupapa.
The sneering Mr Hone Harawira's day is over and he knows it.
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Sorry Adolf. Don't get it.
We're meant to rejoice because a large portion of the country who vote on racist lines or for a racist party are made happy by John Key's spineless pandering??
I don't buy it. I'm with Don Brash. No racism, ever, even if there is political advantage in it.
The Maori Party are a destructive, divisive and negative political force and will never be anything but. Politicians who provide it with power in order to enhance their own popularity will one day reap what they have sown.
This is indeed a particularly sickening period in NZ's history.
So, the majority of Maori approve of the party's partnership with National, eh...and that's a good thing?
The hell it is--what it shows is a) what Redbaiter said and b)National are comfortable with astronomical levels of welfare and racist policies.
No wonder Maori approve.
High levels of support for National right now demonstrate just one thing--Kiwis have been turned into a bunch spineless socialist consumers who are highly relieved they don't have to let go of Nanny's tit.
If that's a "right-wing wingnut" attitude, then what name do you give your shameless sycophancy and refusal to hold National to the one standard that matters--the long-term good of NZ?
More mainstream Maori are starting to realise, just like the indigenous elders in Aus, that welfare is a major part of their problem.
The gravy trainers like harawira and the far right loonys are the only ones that would like to keep those sentiments going.
"The sneering Mr Hone Harawira's day is over and he knows it."
Adolf, you will also be pleased to know that Father Christmas is alive and well and will be visting your house next month.
As long as we have an apartheid based system Harawira and his ilk will always have a home.
The thing is that Joris De Brie has opened the door to be a racist under the guise of freedom of expression.
Only time will tell if that is a good or bad thing. My pick is that it will be a bad thing.
As for Key. I think that he is doing a great job keeping everybody happy. But what happens when he has maxed out the country's credit card?
Adolf, you've misinterpreted this one somewhat. Particularly the last sentence.Also the Marae poll is hardly a vindication of Act's presence there, that's just silly. Harawira will stay as a Maori Party MP. Also 44% (the highest percentage) of those polled considered the government is not heading in the right direction. Did you not read the poll questions?
In today's Herald, Professor Whatarangi Winiata said of the Hypocrite Harawira: "There isn't any doubt about his intellectual ability, it's just..." (etc etc).
Yet another example of how Maori can't distinguish between rat-cunning and REAL intelligence.
Big News, you raise side issues. What is important is the approval rate for the arrangement with National (with or without ACT and BTW relations between ACT and MP are extremely cordial)which Harawira opposes.
He is isolated from mainstream Maori opinion.
Harawira is a bit of a loose cannon sure, he doesn't like National being too close to the Maori Party, nor does he like Labour.I dont think Harawira is isolated from mainstream Maori opinion, just his way of commuincating and disregard for rules.
"He is isolated from mainstream Maori opinion."
Bullshit.
"Mr Harawira "absolutely" believed in what he said about white people, Mr Samuels said.
"A lot of the people that are sitting with him in the Parliament believe the same thing."
He said the Maori Party had separatist policies and should elect Mr Harawira leader and be honest about their views.
"What should happen is that the Maori Party should support him, make him the leader of the party and then New Zealanders and Maori and Tai Tokerau and most importantly his supporters who are actually supporting him in Mt Eden would say good on you Hone, now you're actually flying the true flag for the Maori Party."
Dover Samuels.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/3043228/Harawira-apology-would-be-hypocritical-Samuels
"Race Relations Commissioner Joris de Bres has ruled out investigating the email, saying Mr Harawira was exercising his freedom of opinion"
Having thought about this a bit more I think that this idiot has actually done us all a big favour.
A world where people can truly say what they think without fear of being labelled is probably a good one. If Hone wants to call me a WMF then he should have no problem with me calling him a BMF.
And idiots like deBres won't have any justification to go to work.
The last thing we need is to have hate laws such as in Canada and the State deciding what people can or can't say.
Let everybody have the right to call a spade a spade.
The real problem is that by guaranteeing Maori seats the radical side of Maori are always going to have a home. If they were simply a party under MMP they could get their 5% party vote and have the same number of MPs.
Or win an electoate seat with the right candidates. The make up of their list and quality of candidates and policy would be the driving factor rather than the colour of their skin.
Lou
Yes Lou, radicals DO need a home. Currently the radical within Maoridom and the radicals within the right of politics both have a home which is sitting inside government.
It is much easier to moderate the radicals when they are inside the tent than it is when they are outside.
The point is Adolf the radical Maori have a permanent home through the apartheid Maori seats. The radical right wing, as you describe them take their chances like everybody else.
So to compare them is a bit unfair.
Your assertion that the MP would deal to Harawira was a wonderful bit of wishful thinking on your part. Hone just had the balls to say what they all think anyway.
Lou
I agree with Lou, I don't see why anybody is getting upset about his comments. He believes them to be true along with many thousands of maori I expect.
Until we all work towards lifting them up these firmly held beliefs will remain entrenched within maoridom.
Taking the "OMG I have shit my pants again Redbaiter" approach will see the continuation of this attitude for another generation and our children will be having exactly the same circular argument.
What shit are you talking now Barnesly you doped up geriatric cross wired mental midget??
I don't give a fuck what some otherwise insignificant troughing bludging racist piece of filth said, and that is not what this is about. My beef is that we have such uncivilized separatist shit in our parliament and disgracing the Westminster system by their mere presence.
The point is that the pandering and the political correctness/ cowardice and the racism has to stop, and if you disagree with that, then yes, you and I are in pretty direct disagreement.
That Key and National see some kind of political profit in rubbing shoulders with these hate driven mongrels is a mistake they will come to regret most bitterly one day.
As I have blogged over at my place, John Key has done much to undermine the radicals with his overtures to the Maori party.
We might have misgivings over the hotheads like Harawira but they will become increasingly marginalised as time passes.
Mainstream Maori are discovering National is not the beast they have been led to believe and that National and ACT values are more in line with their own.
Adolf's triumphalism is a little premature yes, but weaning the growing numbers of polynesians off Liarbour and welfare can only be a good thing.
John Key has welcomed them into his inclusive big tent. The only misgivings might only be at what cost of selling out on National policy.
I look forward to a day when there is no Maori Party and no Maori seats. I see John Key as coaxing Maori towards this in his own way.
"I see John Key as coaxing Maori towards this in his own way."
No doubt you still put a tooth under your pillow too FFM....
"coaxing"? Coaxing at what--and whose--expense? Maori don't need coaxing, they need to be forced to acknowledge one country, one standard for all and that being a half-bred brownie isn't a ticket to ride at the expense of others.
But then that would require some guts and principles on Key's part--two things he appears to be missing.
The facts are he entered into an agreement with a racist, separatist party after the elections when he had no real need to and despite giving no hint of that intention in the run-up to the elections.
Adolf's favourite excuse for the lack of clearly stated intentions was that Key didn't want to 'frighten the horses'. We now now better--the smirking bastard is as dishonest in his own way as Clark et al were, except he doesn't have the guts to be up front about it.
And Barnsley Bill, we've been
working at "lifting them up" at fantastic expense for how long now? And they've gone backwards.
Pandering to them isn't going to lift them up. Perhaps you should take a drive into Kaikohe one evening and see how well the uplifting is going.
Some theory you've got there...
Why don't you concern yourself with your own country's race relations with the Abo's instead of coming here and blowing off about Maori. You're full of it. Go back home if you hate NZ that much. Aussie knocker.
lol! Now there's a convincing rebuttal!
Not, you anonymous coward. And I'm a Kiwi knocker, for your information. :-)
lol!the word verification is "brayanon"
Thank you red for the classic line "What shit are you talking now Barnesly you doped up geriatric cross wired mental midget??"
Haha, simply fucking good stuff,haha.
Anon.
During a recent visit to Adelaide,I saw the reality behind your Maori v Aboriginal argument.
As I stepped off the tram from Glenelg, I waved to the obviously near full blood Maori lady (fiftyish) tram driver and turned to see, just a hundred metres away, a group of Australian Aboriginals, sprawled out in the park, pissed out of their trees. i.oo pm on a Thursday.
Can you possibly ask yourself why the tram driver was not an Abo? There's nothing to stop them, you know. Just attitude.
Adolf, you're getting more and more twisted in your lame defense of the Maori Party, the ally of your beloved,never-to-be-criticised, National.
The racist Maori Party is a divisive organisation hellbent on exploiting the system to the full via benefits, grants, treaty settlements, handouts, etc.
Your notion the Party is more mainstrean and middle-clas is ludicrous and akin to wishful thinking.
Wake up, cheerleader.
Key is a disgrace, how could he not call for this racist thug to be charged with verbal assault? What if I called him a black motherfucker?Eh John Boy Got No Balls Key?
National are gutless wimps!
" Haha, simply fucking good stuff,haha. "
My pleasure Dad, but you should thank Barnsely too. After all, if there were not such blathering jerkoff's about, where would I get the inspiration??
You really are a pea brained cunt.
I know lets continue doing what we have always done, Working a treat isn't it?
Other than adopting the "let them starve or kill em all redbaiter attitude" do you actually have a sensible suggestion that contains a trace of common sense and humanity?
Nope? Didn't think so.
You micro-cocked inadequate red necks are no better than the chip on the shoulder blame whitey "bro's".
Quite why you continue to bother venting your spleen on here is a mystery Redbaiter. I can only imagine that your lonely pathetic existence is sustained solely by ranting on other peoples blogs.
"I know lets continue doing what we have always done, Working a treat isn't it?"
Thing is, Barnsley, neither Redb nor I are are suggesting that. In fact we argue exactly the opposite--that continuing to do what we have been doing simply won't work.
Now, since National are in every meaningful way continuing the same failed policies your anger would be better directed at them, surely?
It's no accident that Maori who break free of the welfare trap by moving to Oz to work tend to do very well, so to argue that welfare and separatism is destroying Maori here in NZ is perfectly logical.
I'm a loss to see how that can fairly be described as a "redneck" attitude.
I have Maori friends in Aussie who ask me quietly "Are they still doing that Maori bullshit over there?"
"at a loss" that is. Bloody typos...
"I'm at a loss to see how that can fairly be described as a "redneck" attitude."
Barnesley is just one more brain damaged Progressive who thinks he's a right winger, and possessed of opinions made even more unfathomable by means of the fact that he has the political perceptions of a one cell amoeba.
(He sure can sputter tho when he gets heated.)
I don't get how so many people can apparently be so immune to the most simple and obvious solution of all-the idea that Maori should not ever be treated any differently to any other New Zealander.
Just brain damaged I guess.
So how do you feel now, AF?
Three days on and the virtual silence from the Maori party on HH's rhetoric is deafening. (I exclude Tariana Turia's statement late yesterday, because she effectively said nothing. She said something only to be seen to be saying something).
The Maori party's caught between a rock and a hard place, knowing damn well that his sentiments have traction with the myriad of losers and racists out there.
The whole thing's a bloody hoot:
On the one hand you've got National having to accept that their latest new 'friend' isn't quite so friendly twd most Nat voters ..
.. and on the other, you have Labour who are still smarting from being spurned by voters on the Maori roll after years and years of shamelessly buying Maori votes.
While the welfare & separatist bureacracies that maintain the status quo chug along at public expense, largely unchanged & unchallenged.
Ah, but there's a hui going on this afternoon to decide what to do, Hone being "mismanaged" apparently - whatever that means. A hui that reportedly neither Sharples nor Turia will attend.
Any bets that it'll be anything else than another gabfest? :/
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