Friday, June 26, 2009

Berlusconi: not so much "user of prostitutes" as "rapist."

The great statesman and towering colossus of the world stage (in his own view anyway) says "I never understood where the satisfaction is when you're missing the pleasure of conquest."

"Conquest" used in this sense, gentle reader, means essentially that Berlusconi finds sex the most satisfying when women who didn't actually want to fuck him end up with him inside them anyway. Down here in less romantic territory, we have a different name for that than "conquest."


Redbaiter said...

So on the basis of Psycho Milt's hill billy ignorance regarding the meaning of "conquest" we have another perceived right wing politician smeared as a rapist.

You're yellow Milt.

A yellow hate drive ignorant bigoted coward.

Like so many of your cowardly comrades, ever ready to use the smear rather than reason.

..and don't include me in your ill mannered and presumptuous use of the pronoun "we" you smug collectivist creep.

WAKE UP said...

MILT, you just DON'T GET IT.

Righty sick of Redbaiters presumption of talking for him said...

"we have another perceived right wing politician ... presumptuous use of the pronoun "we" you smug collectivist creep."

Pot kettle black

Socrates said...

PM I think your buying into a view of relations that is wrong with assigning "conquest" with an unnecessarily negative context. There may be a fine line between a predatory pursuit of intimacy and an enjoyment of wooing someone into bed but by extension of your argument then all “cougars” are essentially rapists as they also enjoy “conquests”.

Redbaiter said...

Get an education you sad sick small minded hate driven dumbfuck. The "we" is used in two entirely different contexts.

Anonymous said...

many Italians admire Mr Berlusconi for his success - the power, the money and the chance to surround himself with beautiful women if he so chooses.

Which is what's right with Italy, and what's wrong with NZ. Remember when Key promised to create "a Nation of winners"? Perhaps like hellen he really meant "a nation of whiners"

Falafulu Fisi said...

I love the guy, because he speaks the truth, especially when he was quoted after the 9/11 attack in New York:

Minister Silvio Berlusconi said that Western civilization is superior to Islam and that he hopes the West conquers Islamic civilization.

"We must be aware of the superiority of our civilization, a system that has guaranteed well-being, respect for human rights and—in contrast with Islamic countries—respect for religious and political rights," he said after meeting in Berlin with German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and Russian President Vladimir V. Putin about the terrorist attacks in the U.S.

"The West will continue to conquer peoples, like it conquered communism," he said, even if it means a confrontation with "another civilization, the Islamic one, stuck where it was 1,400 years ago." His comments were instantly disavowed by more moderate politicians in Italy, who called them ill-timed and offensive.

Rightly sick of Redbaiter said...

"Get an education you sad sick small minded hate driven dumbfuck."

Right back at you. Go introduce yourself to a mirror.

PC said...

""Conquest" used in this sense, gentle reader, means . . ."

Oh get a fucking life you tosser.

Sheesh. And I used to come here to get away from bullshit sophistry like this.

Angus said...

C'mon you guys, cut Milt some slack here. Surely, he's allowed to take a break from his usual mode of vainglorious postulating every now and then.

..and it has been about a week since he referred to the Family First people as "wankers".

Oh yes, he's so above the fray.

Redbaiter said...

I don't know the full reason why the left have the idea that its all OK and funny to call perceived right wing people rapists and sluts and tell jokes about their daughters getting knocked up, but I know a big part of it is that we on the right accept it so benignly.

More outrage is necessary people.

Look at the way the left cower to Muslims.

Things have to change.

erikter said...

Milt, as of late your posts are really lame, I would call them pathetic.

What's wrong with you, leftie?

Anonymous said...

poor old Milt Like me hes just jealous of Silvio

You gotta had it to him he dont have dogs around him. Lots of lovely crump


KG said...

What's up, Milt--the sight of a real man make you feel inadequate, did it?
Just because some people regard a sex life as something more than jerking off over a Che poster doesn't make 'em rapists, you know.

Psycho Milt said...

I figured there'd be lots of unreconstructed "conquesters" out there.

Presumably Berlusconi is actually more of a fuckwit than a rapist, but if he comes up with ugly shit like that in public he can take his chances with the assumptions we're going to make about him.


Redbaiter: Of course I'm not including you when I write "we." I don't feel when I write "we" that the term encompasses nutbar right-wing extremists.

Also: "You're yellow Milt" should include a comma, unless you've mistaken me for someone called "Yellow Milt." (Hmm - kind of catchy.) As an example, consider "I'm desperate, Dan" cf "I'm Desperate Dan."

Socrates: I'm well aware that people generally consider sexual conquest to be about seduction. In this case, it sounds more like Berlusconi enjoys the fact they didn't want him but they're getting him anyway. Classy, it ain't.

KG: you're enthusiastic about the sight of Berlusconi, as he's a "real man?" Too much information!

Randominanity said...

"Get an education you sad sick small minded hate driven dumbfuck. The "we" is used in two entirely different contexts."

Is it just me or does that sound like the rant of a sad sick small minded hate driven dumbfuck??

KG said...

Nah, relax Milt..we men just know a man when we see one and don't feel a need to denigrate them, is all. We're not so afraid of maleness we need to turn ourselves into honorary sheilas.
You just carry on being the caring, sensitive type--I'm sure the sisterhood will give you their tick of approval. :-)

KG said...

It's just you, Randominanity.

Angus said...

"We're not so afraid of maleness we need to turn ourselves into honorary sheilas"

LOL. That is why Milt has a goatee. He's so politically correct and repressed in all other aspects of his life, he needs at least one semaphore to indicate the presence of testosterone, right ?

That darned Rover sure as hell doesn't do it !

Psycho Milt said...

That schoolboy uniform is utterly appropriate...

Angus said...
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Angus said...

Keep your fantasies about schoolboys to yourself !

Testosterone is one thing but please, family show... family show.

Redbaiter said...

"nutbar right-wing extremists"

Yeah that's right Milt, it takes one of those to recognise your contemptible and sleazy amorality in so casually labeling someone you don't agree with politically as a rapist.

All you yellow leftists ever have is the smear.

Don't buy into the GW doctrine- Crank

Don't like the Kenyan- Right wing Crazy

Christian- Sky Pixie believer

Oppose socialism- selfish loon

Support right to keep arms- gun nut

ad infinitum

You have no arguments that withstand scrutiny, so you turn to off the shelf cowardly smears and attempted ridicule to silence critics.

The worst is you apparently can't stop yourself.

The totalitarian left (that's you and your comrades Milt) is sinking deeper and deeper into the mire of cowardice deceit and intolerance as every day goes by.

Anonymous said...

at least berlusconi likes women
and not men... so where is the scandal: the popes reaction was not so good and there is a possibilty to burst out a very tough contradiction between roman catholic church and italian parliament for the sexual scandals of berlusconi.
pope can not speak because sarkozy did the same

so all these sexual scandals are very natural on italy
it contains erotonomicon that socked greek society with its sexual scandals and gay or straight scenes on a political background
and the poems new york olympia and exhibition of orthodromic retrospection

Psycho Milt said...

You have no arguments that withstand scrutiny, so you turn to off the shelf cowardly smears and attempted ridicule to silence critics.

As usual, the argument is right there in the post but you ignore it in favour of your usual spiel about leftists. Not my problem, matey.

Redbaiter said...

"As usual, the argument is right there in the post"


There is no argument in the post.

The post is merely a gutless smear with no rational basis to it.

erikter said...

What argument? The fact that you don't get the meaning of "conquest" as understood by Latin societies (and Anglo Saxons, for this matter)?

Milt, are you a closet homosexual venting his frustation against men, represented by Berlusconi in this particular case?

Are you?

WAKE UP said...

"...jerking off over a Che poster doesn't make 'em rapists, you know."

Good one, KG :)

Contrast with: "I figured there'd be lots of unreconstructed
"conquesters" out there."

Milt, there are times when you really crack me up :)

WAKE UP said...

PS Milt, re Berlusconi: if they take him, they want him.

It's a modern world (except for lefty feminazis of both sexes) - time for a change, maybe ?

Psycho Milt said...

Redbaiter: your poor reading comprehension also isn't my problem.

Erikter: are you a closet homosexual venting his frustration against those who belittle his sexual ideal, Berlusconi? Are you?

Wake Up: you're using the term "feminazi" and want to suggest others are making themselves laughable? Really?

WAKE UP said...

Yep :)

WAKE UP said...

ps, KG: maybe Milt needs reminding that the leftist poster boy Che Guevara had more "unwilling" women than Berlusconi has had breakfasts - and was more hypocritical about it too.

And let's see...ah yes, that other paragon of Power to the People, Stokley Carmichael, who memorably said "Then only position for women in the Revolution is prone"...and he couldn't even get that right - it's an even bet that he meant supine (then again, given lefty proclivities, maybe he did mean prone :)

Yep, Milt, rapists, every last one of them - no wonder it's your lot who produced the feminazis.

Psycho Milt said...

So, these dead guys also felt happiest if the woman was hating herself the next morning? And? What?

You lot seem to have missed something - I couldn't care less what Berlusconi's politics are. He could be the longest-serving member of an anarcho-syndicalist commune for all I care - a shit attitude is a shit attitude.

WAKE UP said...

"....if the woman was hating herself the next morning... "

How quaint.

Gee Milt, you need to get out more.

Redbaiter said...

"You lot seem to have missed something - I couldn't care less what Berlusconi's politics are."

Hhahaha.. fuck off Milt. You're so full of bullshit.

You commies are always smearing those on the right, and your attempt to smear Berlusconi as a rapist here is just another of those cowardly smear tactics.

Never saw you write much in criticism of Bill Clinton, who was from all acocunts much more due the allegation than Berlusconie will ever be.

But that's becasue you "don't care about the politics" right??


Psycho Milt said...

Yeah, for some reason when I started blogging at the end of 2005 I neglected to concentrate my attention on political scandals of the 1990s. What was I thinking?

Anonymous said...

I thought exactly the same thing when I read those Berlusconi comments. I'm glad someone has blogged on it. By why are your blog comments full of crazed right-wing chauvinist pigs? It's kind of scary.

Psycho Milt said...

I prefer to think of it in terms like "invigorating" or "refreshing" - ie, people tell you what they actually think here, which is a good thing. Of course, being the only lefty on a right-wing blog, what people actually think of my posts is often significantly less than complimentary...

WAKE UP said...

Yep, Milt, you're the best kamikaze blogger, that's for sure. Cheers :)