Saturday, November 29, 2008

Home detention: Is that a punishment?

Some of our regular readers will know I have a mate who has been a naughty boy.

Last weekend, he committed his third drink driving offence in a year, his fourth in his lifetime.

He was told by his lawyer on Thursday that he faces three months home detention.

My mate did not seem keen on this, which made her tell him she wondered if he would prefer jail, which would have been a certainty had his last offence happened before October.

Now, I do get frustrated if there is a day I do not go out and do something 'constructive' even something as simple as picking up a few groceries.

But can being kept at home be considered a punishment?

Think about it? You have all your possessions around you? All your familiar things and knowing such a sentence was to arise, think of the preparations you could make to give yourself a comfortable internment.

For starters, I would buy/hire the biggest television I could find. I would subscribe to SKY and get all the tv channels I could, not to mention stock up on DVDs and CDs.

There would, of course, be the Internet. Imagine all the blogging you could do?

I would get some weights and a multi-gym for the garage.

I would get books as well, maybe complete some course in something or other.

I would of course teach myself how to sook some really exotic meals.

I understand you are also allowed in the garden, so you can top up your tan too!

Now, my mate likes to use the net to boost his love life. So he would arrange 'hook ups' too. Imagine getting so many 'booty calls.'

So, have I got it right? You can do just about anything you want, except leave your home?

Now, my mate had his case adjourned a few weeks and he hopes to get accepted at university.

He may finally have got the message he needs to turn his life around. If he does go to uni, then he would do something called community detention.

So, we'll see how it goes. But is home detention a real punishment?

Yes, it would drive you mad been confined to your home but it appears you can make it a very comfortable time indeed. What do you think?


Cactus Kate said...

From what I can see home detention is a fabulous alternative if you have a nice home and can kit it out as you have described. People are even allowed to come visit if they have been screened by the officer they put in charge of you.

Of course you can't work so best you be loaded already or have a good mate like Matthew Ridge who lets you camp at his house and offers you all the hospitality of a King.

Home detention in my view is an incredibly soft option and only should be allowed for the most minor of offences.


Indeed Cactus.
Of course, what if you lived in some poky inner city apartment like exist in Auckland CBD, such as the Volt, Zest, etc.
I would hate to live in such boxes at the best of times.
I did not enjoy visiting friends who lived in Zest.
What a horrid place, with rooms just like prison cells.

Dave said...

If he does go to uni, then he would do something called community detention.

Unless he does it extramurally - then he can get his books couriered to him, attend no lectures and he will have his anklet off before the first contact course.

Oswald Bastable said...

I spend every second week 'on call, so I'm either working or hanging about close to home.

That's just like Home D without getting a judge involved!

Psycho Milt said...

He could even skip the contact course - I studied extramural from overseas no problem.

Anonymous said...

Nope. It's not a punishment at all.

Of course - your mate hasn't done any real crime - just one one helen's nanny-state crap "offenses" - so he shouldn't be inside at all.

Blair said...

You know, it's funny how people see it as a "soft option". Having spoken to Tim Selwyn about his HD, I can say that it sounds terrible. It is a huge restriction on your freedom (which is of course, the whole point of prison). You are completely reliant on others, whether that be the prison service, or your mates.

Sure, IF you have access to money and a hot girl, that makes HD a lot easier. But you guys are also forgetting that you are bloggers - by definition homebody sad-sacks. Most people aren't comfy at home with their electronic devices all the time.

Frankly, I am the opposite to Cactus, I believe HD should be used for everyone except the most unpredictable/uncontrolable offender. Simple reason: it's the same loss of freedom, but way cheaper on the taxpayer. I am not going to pay $100k a year for some fucktard that committed violence or fraud against an innocent person! No, they can stay at home and rely on other people. And even better, if they get a job, they can start paying reparations to their victims. Far more useful to society than being in a big airconditioned building that I pay for.

Colonel said...

Tell me... who pays for the underfloor heating? The home detainee or the taxpayer?

Anonymous said...

We had a neighbour on HD. As far as I'm concerned, we suffered the most punishment. Every day we had to put up with his loud music, him sitting in his garage revving his car, him and his mates drinking from morning till night out the front and intimidating anyone who walked past, racing up and down the road on their motorbikes. I'd rather my taxes go towards prisons than this sort of ridiculous soft option.

Anonymous said...

s far as I'm concerned, we suffered the most punishment. Every day we had to put up with his loud music,

call the noise control office and have all that shit confiscated, sold, and put into reperations.

IF we want home detention - and frankly, for those who can' afford to pay for their own prison cell I think there are much simpler, cheaper options available that prevent any future reoffending -

they why not demand that their "home" as no more ameneties that prison? And (as a condition) allow police raids at any time without a warrant which includes the power to confiscate anything on or near the property, or belonging to any private ciitzen at the property?

Crims are scum and bludgers and no longer deserve the protections afforded to hardworking taxpaying kiwis.

dad4justice said...

Can people on home d claim money from the Trany Grany Human Rights Review Tribunal for hurt feelings? No wonder real crims laugh at the fucked system!Hard core the bastards until they understand responsibility.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9.26, we tried noise control, police, etc, no one would deal with it. Even the landlord was too scared to deal with him. The reason he was on HD was for drugs offences - the police raided the house, found drugs and firearms, arrested him, then he's back living in that same house on HD. What a stupid system.

WAKE UP said...

FAIRFACTS says: he's "...been a naughty boy".

ANONYMOUS SAYS: he "...hasn't done any real crime - just one one helen's nanny-state crap "offenses "


When will you spuriously- legitimate-drug (alcohol) pissheads realise that a drunk in charge of a car is not just carrying a potentially lethal weapon, he IS the lethal weapon, with a wheel at each corner. One slip and he's up for anything from the (gun) equivalent of accidentally shooting holes in the ceiling, to murder.

Never mind home detention: he should be confined to his CAR until he hates it so much he'll never get in it again.

Anonymous said...

we tried noise control, police, etc, no one would deal with it.

Call Rodney.

F E Smith said...

Gee, that has to be Auckland. Third EBA in a year in my city would get you a decent lag in gaol, no if's, but's or maybe's.

I am told by my clients that it is ok for a few months, then it starts to get pretty bad with freedom so close. Most people find the longer forms of the sentence (6 months or more) a pretty tough ask.

Alcohol is prohibited for those on Home D, so if they get caught they are (or at least should be) charged with a breach of the sentence. That can see them locked up.

Seems to me that your friend has an alcohol problem and were I in the judge's seat his only chance of getting Home D would be if it were to a residential rehab centre. Of course, he will lose his licence for at least 12 months and be indefinitely disqualified also, so that is a good thing.

F E Smith said...

Just thinking about this one, but if it is third drink drive offence in a year then it should also be a disqualified driving charge to go along with it, as his second one in the year must have got him a 12 month and one day disqualification. So he obviously doesn't care about Court orders either, which means Home Detention should be a lucky escape, not a worst case.

I would give him an estimate (if he was being sentenced in my area) of between 3 and 9 months prison, depending on the judge.

Let us know what he gets.