Monday, September 1, 2008

Why John Key is NOT like Barack Obama



Good Lord! Why oh why is John Boy comparing himself to the leftist lightweight.

The NZ Herald offers more of Key's comments to the Financial Times of London, with reader views here.

Well, I cannot see much in common, other than they both might be considered 'young' - being in their 40s.

But as far as I know, Key has no dodgy pastors hiding behind him, his wife is quite sane, Key was not brought up by a corrupt political machine, Key has quite sensible policies both economically and concerning foreign affairs.

And here's the clincher. Key will WIN his election later this year!

I am sure you can think of other reasons why Key is NOT like Barack Obama.

24 comments:

Anonymous said...

Key is nothing like Obama, but guess who is a whole lot like McCain...

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2008/08/spoooky.html

Psycho Milt said...

...his wife is quite sane...

I'll believe it when I see the proof. And in what sense is Obama's wife not sane?

...Key was not brought up by a corrupt political machine...

I'm sorry, has Key changed parties or something while I wasn't looking?

...Key has quite sensible policies both economically and concerning foreign affairs.

By stealing all Labour's ones...

I am sure you can think of other reasons why Key is NOT like Barack Obama.

No-one outside NZ knows or cares who he is? He's not up against a doddery old man and a small-town religious loony? His oratory is more somnolent than inspiring? You're right, there are heaps of them...

Anonymous said...

PM i havnt heard Mr Keys wife saying she doesnt respect NZ unlike the tossers from the left who think we live in some backward south dorkland gangstar pacific place ,fuckwit sideway wearing hatted LOSSERS, DOLEBLUGGERS WHO ROOT AND SHOOT and live in some fuckwit place called aoteoroa (NOT NEW ZEALAND) who pays these losing LABOUR PARTY SUPPORTING shitheads benifits, UM FUCKWIT WORKING ME :(

KG said...

lol! I'd love to see PM say that to Sarah Palin's face.
You'd be mooseburger, PM. :-)

Adolf Fiinkensein said...

Anonymous, would you kindly desist from the use of such ridiculous language?

PM, I'll thank you to remember that if you want to describe my party as corrupt, you'd better get some evidence. Further, it ill behoves a hick town blogger to throw rocks at a highly successful state governor who has 80% plus popularity ratings and a record of stamping out corruption within her own party machine. Why you man Obama's only executive experience was his time a chairman of Chicago terrorist Bill Ayers' foundation, handing out $100 mil of gummint funds to dummy charities who then funneled the money to al Qaeda.

Psycho Milt said...

lol! I'd love to see PM say that to Sarah Palin's face.

Have you discerned some factual error in that description, KG? I find it unlikely.

PM, I'll thank you to remember that if you want to describe my party as corrupt, you'd better get some evidence.

Why? Everyone on the right-wing side of the NZ blogosphere seems to bandy corruption charges about with only their personal fantasies to base it on - so why shouldn't I take an example from their efforts? In this case, we have a party that anonymises its donations through a process which can only be described as a mechanism for concealing influence-peddling. Case closed, corruption commission urgently required, everyone to be slapped in jail asap etc.

Anonymous said...

I left my comments about this thread over at Keeping Stock.

Only good thing about it is I prevented Jafapete from saying it first!

showmethetaxcut

KG said...

Factual error? Well, no. Lack of content in the response, so facts hardly come into it.
I'm trying out the leftard style of comments, just for fun, PM.
Anyway...
"And in what sense is Obama's wife not sane?"
A woman who leads a very luxurious lifestyle, who has been given plenty of breaks due to her skin pigmentation--says that "at last" she may have something to be proud of about her country.
Perhaps not clinically insane but certainly seriously unbalanced.
As for believing Key's wife is sane when you see the proof--that'd be a certificate from a qualified psychiatrist, yes?
You have one of those, PM? Until you prove it then we're entitled to believe you're not sane.It was a stupid response.
Key didn't "steal" all Labour's policies. He's done what I regard as a clever--or unprincipled--thing and moved the party towards the so-called "middle ground". Labour no more "owns" those policies than I do.
"no-one outside NZ knows or cares who he is"
That'd be why Obama drew huge crowds in Germany then.And the Brit and European media are spending so much time and effort covering the U.S. elections.
And Sarah Palin is "a small town religous loony" eh?
For starters, she's the Governor of Alaska, a State you could lose this pissant little Pacific banana republic in fifty times over.And that small-town woman has had more experience in the real, working world than the whole of the Labour cabinet put together.
And if having religous convictions makes someone a "religious loony" then all I can say is there's millions of decent people, living ordinary, decent lives you've just insulted with your adolescent jibe.
But that's your style, right?

Psycho Milt said...

KG, it's a pisstake thread - I don't think either Fairfacts' original comments or mine are expected to be taken as serious commentary. That said:

You (and FFM for that matter) have declared Obama's wife at the very least mentally unstable, for holding an opinion you disagree with. And you're calling other responses stupid?

The term "steal" here is what we earth creatures call "humour." Admittedly, "nicking" would have been a funnier term, but hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Perhaps I could have explicitly spelled out "No-one outside NZ knows or cares who Key is - but it seems clear enough from the context.

And as for small-town religious loonies - well I'm sorry. I'm generally happy to treat religious people with respect, but I draw the line at the ones who think creationism should be taught as science in schools - those are religious loonies.

As for this:

...there's millions of decent people, living ordinary, decent lives you've just insulted with your adolescent jibe.
But that's your style, right?


Try repeating it to yourself every time you write some new obnoxious bullshit about lefties. It'll become a mantra in no time.

KG said...

Yeah, it's all humour--how convenient.
I used the term "unbalanced", not unstable.

"Perhaps I could have explicitly spelled out "No-one outside NZ knows or cares who Key is - but it seems clear enough from the context"
Fair enough.
"..but I draw the line at the ones who think creationism should be taught as science in schools"
Is a distortion of the position of very many people who believe that creationism should at least be mentioned as an alternative view to natural selection and that the theory of evolution is just that--a theory.
(and no, I'm not one of them. I'm not even religious in the accepted sense of the word.)
...there's millions of decent people, living ordinary, decent lives you've just insulted with your adolescent jibe.
But that's your style, right?


"Try repeating it to yourself every time you write some new obnoxious bullshit about lefties. It'll become a mantra in no time."
It's almost impossible to insult those who believe in taking the hard-earned wealth of workers and handing it to bludgers. Or who cling to a collectivist totalitarian mindset despite the human misery and piles of bodies it's produced.
Or those who support a party which has lied and stolen and reduced democracy in NZ to a farce.
Obnoxious? Maybe.
Bullshit? No.

Pstyle said...

the only intereting thing about this news is that it highlights once again the meddling incompetency of NZ journalism. John Key's comment was probably in repsonse to a direct question asking him for a comparison. . .

Anyone know who actually penned this story? If so, can you drop me a line at http://virtuphill.blogspot.com/2008/09/fart-sounds-for-fairfax.html

Psycho Milt said...

See, that's why I enjoy prodding you and Redbaiter so much, KG - your conviction that your own side must be treated with dignity and respect, while your indulgence of irrational hatred for my side is all good because yes we are that evil. I'm sorry, but it just invites sarcasm.

KG said...

There's nothing at all "irrational' about hatred of leftism.
100+ million dead can't be wrong.

Socrates said...

"There's nothing at all "irrational' about hatred of leftism. 100+ million dead can't be wrong."

There's nothing at all "irrational' about hatred of rightism. 100+ million dead can't be wrong.

There's nothing at all "irrational' about hatred of religion. 100+ million dead can't be wrong.

KG said...

you have a source for those figures concerning "rightism" and religion, Socrates?

KG said...

And I'd point out that the only religion killing large numbers of people these days is islam.
North Korea and Zimbabwe are still doing their bit for the leftists too.

Socrates said...

“you have a source for those figures concerning "rightism" and religion, Socrates?”
Do you have a source for your figures concerning “leftism”? For my part, I would count every death in war pre 1800 as attributable to “rightest” policies and/or religion. After 1800 it gets a lot more complicated. Also I would lay the starving millions in Africa at “righest” policies – namely protectionism introduced by “righest” governments and farming subsidies also introduced by “rightest” governments.
“And I'd point out that the only religion killing large numbers of people these days is islam.”
The Hindus don’t do so bad at killing in Sri Lanka and India at the moment, neither do the Christians or Jews in the middle-east aided by the brothers the Muslims. I wasn’t having a go at Christianity or Islam, but religion in general.
“North Korea and Zimbabwe are still doing their bit for the leftists too.”
Actually this is where I start to wonder at our polarities of left and right in politics. Plainly both the above countries situations have evolved from governments that profess leftist doctrine, but are their current governments actually left or for that matter right. Totalitarian governments spring from either side of the well and move to somewhere else. North Korea for example had a “communist” regime installed by the Chinese, but if you look at what happened in reality North Korean warlords adopted the politics of their larger neighbour and then continued to do what they had did for centuries before.

KG said...

"Do you have a source for your figures concerning “leftism”?"
I do. Here's just one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Book_of_Communism

"Also I would lay the starving millions in Africa at “righest” policies – namely protectionism introduced by “righest” governments and farming subsidies also introduced by “rightest” governments."
That's nonsense--and I don't mean there's no truth in it, but you ignore the huge role tribalism, nepotism and corruption play in Africa. For all the countless billions in aid poured into that place, they're still mired in internecine warfare, primitivism and corruption.
And what about those African countries which inherited thriving economies after colonialism? Zimbabwe is the best example--pure Marxist economics and mass starvation is the result.
"The Hindus don’t do so bad at killing in Sri Lanka and India at the moment, neither do the Christians or Jews in the middle-east aided by the brothers the Muslims."
Whatever the rights and wrongs of those conflicts (and we'll never agree there) the number of dead is a drop in the bucket compared to communism's score.
"but are their current governments actually left or for that matter right.."
Is this a joke? Mugabe is a hardline Marxist, always was.And the North Korean regime mirrors the Soviet Union in ideology.
"Totalitarian governments spring from either side of the well and move to somewhere else."
I'm struggling to think of a right wing totalitarian government anywhere, let alone one which imprisons and starves a whole nation. What do you have in mind?

Psycho Milt said...

Ah, a your-side-killed-more-than-our-side pissing contest! KG loves those.

The right cops all of WW1 (imperialists) and all of WW2 (fascists and imperialists), not to mention all the religious conflicts, so the contest's off to a great start with some big numbers tallying up. There is of course, a potential issue of "Who in their right mind bandies such casualty lists about as though they were some kind of argument?", but what the hell, we're having fun now, right?

KG said...

Sigh--I just can't be bothered with you PM.
Socrates seems at least willing to engage in argument, rather than your adolescent tantrums and smart-arse self indulgent jibes.
Grow up, fer chrissakes.

KG said...

"Ah, a your-side-killed-more-than-our-side pissing contest! KG loves those.'
And did you even read the claims, methodology and criticisms of the Black Book of Communism PM?
I doubt it--that'd take some effort and smart-arsery is so much easier.

FAIRFACTS MEDIA said...

Now now gentlemen, can we please get back to the issue of John Key and the ObamaMessiah.
As far as I recall, John Key has never been suspected of being a muslim, nor has he received backing from Hamas and a variety of leftist organisations, there has never been any controversy over his birth certificate either.
I am sure there are more.

Psycho Milt said...

Yes, Helen Clark had one in the paper this morning: how could such a wooden public speaker compare himself to such a great orator?

John Key has never been suspected of being a muslim

You know what, I hear that this Obama guy is also suspected of being coloured. None of that with Key either.

Psycho Milt said...

KG: I no more consider my views discredited by the antics of Bolsheviks than you consider your own views discredited by the antics of imperialists and fascists. I'm only ever going to take the piss out of that line of argument, so if you present it, expect only smart-arse jibes in response.