Wednesday, September 3, 2008

Rodney's speech in Parliement on the ETS

The line is in the sand. You are either with us or against us. You choose: do you want to be Rich or Poor.

And yes, the heading to this post is correct. It is no longer Parliament but will be once Winston is gone.

Climate Change (Emissions Trading And Renewable Preference) Bill

Speech to Parliament; Tuesday, September 2 2008

I think I will be the only person speaking in this debate who has any qualifications in environmental science.

It is not that that should count, but I think that it is significant for what I am about to say—that is, that the entire climate change - global warming hypothesis is a hoax, that the data and the hypothesis do not hold together, that Al Gore is a phoney and a fraud on this issue, and that the emissions trading scheme is a worldwide scam and swindle.

Enacting this legislation will cost New Zealanders dear—that is the point of it—and it will drive up the costs of basic goods and services for New Zealanders probably by at least $500 or $600 a year.

It will put businesses in New Zealand out of business, and put farmers off their farms. It will put businesses in New Zealand out of business. It will put farmers off their farms. And it will do all this for no impact on world weather, for no environmental gain, and for no conceivable advantage to New Zealand or to the world.

Yes, it is bad that we are rushing this legislation through in the dying days of a teetering regime, propped up by a Minister of Foreign Affairs who is under investigation for serious and complex fraud.

That is bad, but it is the impact that this legislation and this policy will have on New Zealanders that is so truly shocking. All we have in this is a computer model. That is notoriously difficult, because the answers are written in the assumptions. Let me give members just one example.

The problem for the first two Intergovernmental Panel of Climate Change reports was what was called the medieval warming period, where a thousand years ago the Earth was warmer than it is now.

Then, magically, an obscure physicist in the US came up with a new bit of analysis — the hockey stick — that showed world temperature to be flat and then rising dramatically as the world became industrialised. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change grabbed this, put it on the front of its document, and repeated it five times.

Researchers all around the world were puzzled by this, because it did not fit any of their data. Eventually they got hold of that computer model and they discovered this: any numbers fed into that model would produce the hockey stick.

We could take the Wellington telephone directory, feed it into the model that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change used in 2001, and we would get the hockey stick that saw the world running scared, that saw policy-makers running scared, and saw Al Gore make his movie based on it.

The science was rubbish, because a computer model is not science. Science is about theories, hypothesis, and the testing of these against the facts. That is not what has happened in the basic science here. That is bad enough, but what is worse is the policy rationale underpinning this legislation. The Minister would come before the select committee and talk about a "cap and trade" but, when asked, would say: "Yes, there is no cap." We are creating a market in hot air, without any quantified amount.


Psycho Milt said...

I must admit, this poorly-dreafted legislation has every appearance of subjecting us to huge and pointless expense for the sake of securing Helen Clark a political legacy. I'm really not interested in spending money on that.

mawm said...


- and all the rest will disappear.

KevOB said...

I don't understand how the Nats are so dense to not recognise the climate change nonsense (it's a given with the others): a computer model is not fact and to base political action on speculation is showing ignorance of the duties of government.

I heard Rodney make the speech and with it it he secured my family's votes.

Dave Mann said...

I am a long time ACT voter and I have been thinking recently that ACT has irretrievably lost the plot (with the dancing, the silly jacket, the green union employee fiasco etc).

Now however, with this one ballsy speech from Rodney, the ACT party is back on my list as a party of principle and guts.

It is such a hopeful sign that at least ONE political party represented in Parliament seems to both undrstand the Climate Change baloney for what it is, and also have the guts to stand up and say so.

Well said, Rodney Hide.

Falafulu Fisi said...

Bravo Rodney.

Actually, the Climate Porn industry/proponents is the new fad. The NZ public is still blind to this climate porn even if a National government comes into office next year, they're in it too, because National supports ETS one form or another, because they don't have the guts to kill such devastating legislation on its track before it becomes law. National is an indecisive wimp.

Mr Dennis said...


Hear, hear! There is only one party with that actually in their policy that I am aware of though:

This is a great speech. It is a shame no-one in parliament will listen to it. We really can't trust National on this, we must ensure they are forced to go into coalition with parties that will actually demand sensible environmental legislation, the main contenders being Act and Family.

Psycho Milt said...

He secured "your family's" votes, KevOB? How do you know?

mawm said...

He secured "your family's" votes, KevOB? How do you know?

Psycho - it's like this, a family is a bit like a Workers Union - the head tells you who to vote for.

Anonymous said...

the Electoral Tax Scam ETS is a toxic combination of the Communist greens Socialist Labour and Right Wing big business.

the Left see the chance to raise billions of dollars in new taxes acussing anyone debating the issue of being DENIERS as in Holacaust Deniers. Big Business see a chance to seel the green meesage for the sake of increased sales and increase profit margins blaming these on their increased costs of being 'good' producers.

Meanwhile the taxpayer and consumer willb ear all the costs for no advantage


Anonymous said...

How bizarre that here is a leafder with the most scientific knowledge and he is a skeptic.
he hasn't had the wool pulled over nhis eyes like the others.
Well done Rodney!


Psycho Milt said...

mawm: as neither a union nor a family is actually like that, I remain interested in hearing KevOB's answer.

Anonymous said...

I would like to think that the reason National will also campaign to agree to an Emission Taxation Scam if they win the election i.s because otherwise the Socialists would label them as destroyers of the planet with all sorts of emotive language. At least National have indicated they will act in harmony with Aussie (better to follow them though) and Aussies are pragmatic if nothing else...The Nats should cost Liabours Emission Taxation Scam and emphasise it repeatedly.......Baxter