Tuesday, September 9, 2008

Helen's Black Tuesday: What does she know? Everything!!



Today Owen Glenn dropped his bombshell.

What we all knew or suspected, that Liarbour and Dear Leader are all upto their neck in it.

Mike Williams was deeply involved and consulted all the way. Thus, it follows, our control freak Prime Minister did too.

The issue is being considered on TV1 as I type this.

Theresa Arseneau says despite the 'wild rumours' Liarbour were putting out about Glenn being doddery, he was a 'very credible' witness, producing phone records.

As the NZ Herald notes, Glenn also produced a witness backing up his own testimony, plus emails. Whale Oil has evidence here.

Key is on now, saying Uncle Helen has known for months and is up to her neck in it. Indeed, such is the theme of this aricle from Stuff: "Peters came to me and Labour knew.". Key wants Uncle Helen to call an election now, but I'd rather wait a little longer for more scandal to come out.

Indeed, the focus has now to be turned on Liarbour, Uncle Helen and what they knew.

In Election 2005, Uncle Helen and Liarbour stole an election with taxpayers money and by overspending. Liarbour was found to be corrupt and passed vaidating legislation to make it all okay.

This time round, we see Dear Leaer not only turning a blind eye to the lies, hypocracy and corruption of Winton Raymond Peters, we see her as a active player. She stood by while Winston lied. Her party president was deeply involved in the matter too, even down to enjoying holidays recently on Owen Glenn's yacht.

We had Liarbour taking money from Glenn, the prospect they put Glenn up to funding Winston too. Note how Glenn checked with Williams to see that his donation was okay. Now what about the bid to buy off the Maori Party? What Glenn involved here? Was Liarbour using him to bankroll a pet and tame opposition?

And for what thanks? After a honour earlier in the year, Liarbour then set out to smear Glenn in their defence of Captain Baubles. Cullen lied, and apparantly there were so many smears. They all did this to protect Winston Raymond Peters and the corruption he has committed, the lies becoming more apparant and clearer by the day.

So our Dear Leaer, whom we all know is on top of things, a control freak, for once is happy to see Winston Peters behave as he does. It all begs the questions what does she know and what dirt does he have on her?

10 comments:

Psycho Milt said...

Ha ha! Just posted above, wondering how you guys were feeling! Obviously I was over-estimating the realism with which you'd face this outcome. Re this post: if you pile up a whole lot of non-sequiturs in one place, it's still not the same as a convincing argument...

Anonymous said...

What are you on about PM?

You obviously didn't watch TV3!

Psycho Milt said...

I did. Was there some secret right-wing Teletext thing going on that I don't subscribe to?

Barnsley Bill said...

PM, you are a funny guy. I look forward to someday sharing a beer with you if I ever venture south of New Zealand again.
In the meantime the link to the Glenn interview is now up at my place.

Anonymous said...

Cullen lied, and apparantly there were so many smears. They all did this to protect Winston Raymond Peters and the corruption he has committed,

Nope. They don't really give a fuck about Winnie, and they wouldn't lie for him.

In Election 2005, Uncle Helen and Liarbour stole an election with taxpayers money and by overspending

that paid for some of the campaign - but not all of it. Crucially, it didn't allow large payments to potential coalition partners. If Glenn hadn't found $100K++ for Winnie, and who knows how much for the Greens, for Dunne, (we know about $250 for the Maori Party) then Labour would not have a majority.



The question is not: what does Winne have over Helen --- the question is what does Glenn have over Helen

and the answer is: everything. Labour bought the 2005 election with Glenn's money.

Psycho Milt said...

BB: for some unknown reason, my fellow citizens admit to few circumstances that would necessitate a trip to Palmerston North... That said, should such circumstances eventuate for you, I'll get the first round.

I enjoyed the Owen Glenn interview. He was obviously enjoying giving Labour a good kicking, and who could say it was undeserved?

Barnsley Bill said...

I think there will be more tomorrow. Winston moving his appointment to 24 hours after Glenn was a deliberate attempt at securing breathing space in order to cook up a strategy. I think we will see Glenn on the TV again tomorrow night.

Anonymous said...

I think we will see Glenn on the TV again tomorrow night.

Hell yeah. Because there are so many questions that must be answered.

* who in Labour initiated Glenn's donations to NZF
* who in Labour suggested Glenn offer $250 to the Maori party
* what did Glenn do with that $250 when the Maori Party said no? Did he help them in any other way.
* what instructions did Glenn get about the Greens & UF?
* what did he do for the Greens & UF on Labour's instructions?


Will he present all his phone records?

Will he describe every single one of his conversations with Labour?

Psycho Milt said...

who in Labour initiated Glenn's donations to NZF

That would be a pretty stupid question to ask, given that he's already answered that Winston initiated the donation (singular).

The rest of yor questions are equally without merit, given they spring from false premises.

Will he present all his phone records?

Will he describe every single one of his conversations with Labour?


Uh, sure. Right after all National and ACT's anonymous donors hand over all their relevant phone records and describe all their conservations with those parties. In the interests of stamping out corruption, naturally...

Anonymous said...


That would be a pretty stupid question to ask, given that he's already answered that Winston initiated the donation (singular).


The question is: did he talk to anyone in Labour about other donations in general. Phone records will tell us.

Right after all National and ACT's anonymous donors

Still don't get it do you.

National and ACT's donors --- give to National and ACT.

Labour's donations give to --- anyone Labour tells them to!

Labour is corrupt. National and ACT aren't.

Labour bought the last election with Owen Glenn's money.