Monday, July 28, 2008

A fat centre

Gooner was doing some thinking below about National's move to reclaim the centre by stealing Labour policies. This gives Act a bit more breathing space on the right and they are probably thankful for it.

Here is my problem. Have we as a people become so complacent, so wrapped up in a comfort zone, that we now lack the courage to question how New Zealand is governed and the type of policies we need to ensure our economic and social well being. What has happened to people standing up and saying what they really think.

Do NZers really believe that WFF is the answer to their prayers? Have we become a society of people hanging around not wishing to offend, not wanting to upset the apple cart, accepting the crumbs our leaders throw our way.

The world has changed but we haven't. The centre is now a big fat, happy place where we are dooming ourselves to a very mediocre future.

8 comments:

KG said...

"Have we become a society of people hanging around not wishing to offend, not wanting to upset the apple cart, accepting the crumbs our leaders throw our way."
Well...yes.And not just in NZ either.

homepaddock said...

Do NZers really believe that WFF is the answer to their prayers?

No, but it's anexample of bad policy which is good politics and now it's established there are too many people getting money through it to risk the electoral back lash from ditching it.

That's sad, but that's MMP politics.

Anonymous said...

What has happened to people standing up and saying what they really think.

They don't want to lose their jobs, their careers, their businesses to IRD audits, their familes to CYFS and the section 59 police. Why else do you think?

The centre is now a big fat, happy place where we are dooming ourselves to a very mediocre future.

Centre? We don't have a centre. We have a bunch of extreme-hard-left parties, Labour; Greens; and the Maori party - who policy-for-policy are somewhere to the left of Erich Honecker and who are on record as supporting Pol Pot and Ho Chi Minh. We have some left-wing parties - notably National; and centre-left parties (ACT, Libz).

We don't have something the rest of the world would recognise as a centre party. Every single political party in NZ is so far to the left of the US Democrats, Barack Osama, or Hillary Clinton (let alone Bill), or even the UK Labour party --- that, frankly, Communist Poland had more true freedom than NZ does today.

James said...

....."We have some left-wing parties - notably National; and centre-left parties (ACT, Libz)."


Say Wot The F**k?!

Simon said...

Mediocre describes Labor’s base which they have cleverly built up over the last nine years.

You are not going to appreciate the extent of damage until National gets into office.

National first job is get into office.

Anonymous said...

Of course there is the conspiracy theory that John Key has a cunning plan.

By playing the "me too" game, refusing to rule out coalition govt with Winston Peters and saying Roger Douglas and ACT have no place in a National formed government, he is hoping that he will piss off all National voters in safe National electorates into giving their party vote to ACT.

Then when Winnie and NZ First do not make it back (or even if they do) and National has to compromise on the "me too" policies to form a government with ACT in an overhung parliament, Key can put hand on heart and with crocodile tears in his eyes say this is what the voters delivered him and the price he had to pay to form as uncomplicated a government as possible.

Amen to that.

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Anonymous said...

Say Wot The F**k?!

Compare ACT and the Libz policies with those of the US Republican party, for example, let alone a moderate "right wing" party like Salazar in Portugal or Papadopoulos in Greece.

The ACT policy is just NationaLabour with slightly different mechanisms - instead of state-controlled schools and hospitals, everybody gets government vouchers to buy education & healthcare - still payed for by my taxes!!!. ACT also supports MMP? How's that freedom or democracy, let alone even a center-right alternative to National & Labour.

here are a bunch of moderate right-wing polices that no NZ party supports:
* cancelling the China alliance
* rejoining ANZUS
* joining the war in Iraq and Afganistan
* instituting compulsory military service until age 50
* rebuilding the air wing; buying another 4 frigates, actually arming the navy & airforce
* considering ACLM-N's for the Navy & airforce
(antiship cruise missiles with nuclear tips)
* selection for secondary school (and then university) purely on merit based on exams set outside NZ (e.g. Cambridge Board)
* restricting non-european immigration to NZ
* making suffrage dependent on wealth and property
* removing all corporate taxes
* going to a flat 30% income tax rate, capped at say 10.000
* removing all eligibility for public holidays or leave provisions, going to a 60-hour work week
* arming all police, prison guards, maori wardens, and security guards
* make reasonable suspicion of committing a crime or being a member of a criminal organisation (gang, trades union, leftist political party) an absolute defines to murder or assault charges
* outlawing trades unions and leftist political parties
* removing trial by jury for crimes of treason, sedition, or being involed in a criminal organisation (Mongrel Mob, Headhunters, Labour Party. Union)

Anonymous said...

Say Wot The F**k?!

Compare ACT and the Libz policies with those of the US Republican party, for example, let alone a moderate "right wing" party like Salazar in Portugal or Papadopoulos in Greece.

The ACT policy is just NationaLabour with slightly different mechanisms - instead of state-controlled schools and hospitals, everybody gets government vouchers to buy education & healthcare - still payed for by my taxes!!!. ACT also supports MMP? How's that freedom or democracy, let alone even a center-right alternative to National & Labour.

here are a bunch of moderate right-wing polices that no NZ party supports:
* cancelling the China alliance
* rejoining ANZUS
* joining the war in Iraq and Afganistan
* instituting compulsory military service until age 50
* rebuilding the air wing; buying another 4 frigates, actually arming the navy & airforce
* considering ACLM-N's for the Navy & airforce
(antiship cruise missiles with nuclear tips)
* selection for secondary school (and then university) purely on merit based on exams set outside NZ (e.g. Cambridge Board)
* restricting non-european immigration to NZ
* making suffrage dependent on wealth and property
* removing all corporate taxes
* going to a flat 30% income tax rate, capped at say 10.000
* removing all eligibility for public holidays or leave provisions, going to a 60-hour work week
* arming all police, prison guards, maori wardens, and security guards
* make reasonable suspicion of committing a crime or being a member of a criminal organisation (gang, trades union, leftist political party) an absolute defines to murder or assault charges
* outlawing trades unions and leftist political parties
* removing trial by jury for crimes of treason, sedition, or being involed in a criminal organisation (Mongrel Mob, Headhunters, Labour Party. Union)