Friday, May 23, 2008

Kahui, Cops and Bullshit

People are obviously pissed off Chris Kahui was acquitted of the murders of his two babies. I am. It is a shocking crime and it is a shocking result. But the cops don't deserve the scorn poured upon them by the Kiwiblog right. Here's a little prozac-induced, saliva-producing rant from from D4J.

This is disgusting and I’m bloody livid that the dumb keystone cops allowed the murdering low life Kahui scum family time to concoct a story after the discovery of the two dead babies. The culturally sensitive lunkhead cops wouldn’t sit back and allow them time to make up a fairy tale alibi if they were white. The keystone’s can muster and dispatch half a dozen moronic idiots immediately to arrest a man for flicking his toddler’s ear lobes! In this tragic case they can’t be bothered organising an early intervention investigation that was needed. Why did they not carpet arrest and detain until the culprit coughed up the filthy name that slaughtered two babies. What a sad indictment for the totally incompetent law authorities. The keystones are bleating on about the lack of co-operation from the family but it was their ineptitude that allowed the homicidal maniacs time to cover their fetid arses! Who can respect such procedure and to make matters worse, the dumb arse cops are going to allow the perpetrators of this barbaric attack to get off scoff free! What message does this send to the criminal low life fraternity? This scum father is guilty and it is the fault of a thicko police force that this pig baby killer is laughing at you!

Who in there right mind can have any confidence in the dangerous and dysfunctional New Zealand keystone police.
Then there is Murray backing him up. And also Ross Miller. Big bruv let's it all hang out.

It is clear that the police fucked up big time and it is abundantly clear that this type of failure is going to be something that we will see a lot more of in the next few years.

Make no mistake, the reason this trail failed to obtain the correct verdict is because of the PC attitude and approach of the Police (under the direction of the government), in the last few weeks we have seen some of our greatest cops leave the force out of sheer frustration, we cannot afford to lose the likes of Grimshaw in Auckland and Quinn in Wellington, all we are left with are people like the fool who led the Kahui inquiry, cops who are more worried about being PC than catching the killer/killers of two innocent kids.

Virtualmark thinks the cops should have just charged the whole family until someone was eventually found guilty. Yeah, that would have been a winner with the Crown:
Ladies and Gentlemen of the Jury. We don't actually have a fucken clue who did this and cannot prove any particular person did. But I'll tell you all one thing: someone in that bunch of losers over there did so you decide who.
What a great opening that would have been. Methinks if the cops had done that the Kiwiblog comments would have exceeded 1,000, with most saying how incompetent the cops were. D4J would have had 998 of them.

Then virtualmark pipes up again and thinks the family should have been charged with perverting the course of justice! Sigh.

3-coil blames the "corrupt cops and Labour". Double sigh.

But wait, there's more! Just go to Farrar's post and read the drivel for yourself.

For the shitwits in the blogosphere it is quite simple. There was NO evidence anyone else other than Chris Kahui did it. The ONLY evidence against Macysna was that she was in the area on the night (gee, so were 150 others); and that she apparently admitted to an ex-boyfriend, who had a grudge against her anyway, that she did it.

It's a very simple case of there being reasonable doubt. I don't like it any more than the next person. But the fact there is an acquittal doesn't mean Labour corrputed the process, or that the cops were PC, or that, say, Ian Wishart said it was corrupt.

Go and get a grip all of you. You give yourselves a bad 'name'.


Barnsley Bill said...

Take a pill Gooner. The police fucked this up from the start. They faffed around at the beginning and then had nowhere to start.
So what do they do?
They have to charge somebody because the whole country has a foot on their throats so they pick the Dad. I believe this was a cynical decision based on the thought that a jury was more likely to believe a man would do this.
They had nothing.
A new team needs to review all the evidence (including the massive smear of King by the defense).

Gooner said...

I will never believe the line that "they have to charge somebody because the whole country has a foot on their throats". That's utter crap. And I thing you're right BB: they had nothing. That's because there was nothing to have. Call it bad luck if you like or maybe cynically "that's the way the cookie crumbles". Nothing is perfect in this life, not even police work. Suck it up and get over it.

Seamonkey Madness said...

So the twins killed themselves then?

Gooner said...

Don't be silly SMM.

Psycho Milt said...

...they had nothing. That's because there was nothing to have.

Yup. Sometimes there just ain't enough evidence to convict, and the scumbag walks. Would be nice if you could predict that in advance and not prosecute in those cases, but many impossible things would be nice.

Still, no surprises re the Kiwiblog reaction. Once you get past DPF's initial post, Kiwiblog's largely just a parade of frothing-at-the-mouth nutjobs.

Oswald Bastable said...

No Physical evidence of Who- just what was done and if nobody coughs- that's it for he prosecution- all they have is circumstantial evidence, with Chris Kahui being at the top of the list.

It ain't tv and sometimes the cops don't have anything to go on.

I don't like the fact that someone guilty walks free- who does?

Clunking Fist said...

"But something has to be done. Think of the kiddies"

Yep, there's no quick answer. There's also no easy answer...except reform of the welfare system. Reform of the edjakation system and some economic growth would be good, too.

Anonymous said...

Yup, we have to accept that in this sinful, fallen, corrupt world injustice does occur and sometimes the guilty get away with it. At least the evil has not been compounded in this case by a manufactured trophy conviction to keep the public happy by "getting a result".
Full marks to the defence team for doing their job professionally and credibly. The Crown's case was pathetically weak--which was reflected in the speed with which the jury reached its verdict.
But there are real issues raised about the process and police investigative procedure which have to be scrutinized. In this regard Adolf's post was right on the money.
Also--and this is just a hunch on my part--I suspect there is now an institutionalised habit in the police, evidenced in a number of suspect convictions over the past twenty years, where early in the piece the investigation team appears to form a view, then investigates to confirm the view, rather than find the facts. After all, detectives have successfully advanced their careers by being seen to "get results."
I wonder if we would not be better served by having a more contestable investigative procedure from the outset as occurs in the States between the DA's office and the police--or some similar approach.


I have a policeman brother and cousin so am wary at criticising the police.
But the police have not the best of records lately at clearing up high profile cases.
This ecords seems to be wporsening under Liarbour.
I had forgotten about the cultural sensitivity aspect of the case, which seems to have been a convenient way for the family to evade responsibility and throw hudles in the way of investigation.
We need to look to government to see how it has handled the police in recent years.
Not very good in my opinion.
Annette King and her predecessors can take their share of the blame too.
They won't though. Ministerial respnsibility is an alien concept to Liarbopur and no doubt the Liarbour left will blame Ruth Richardson!

Psycho Milt said...

This ecords seems to be wporsening under Liarbour.

I hear hens lay less and cows give less milk under "Liarbour" also. Do they poison wells and kidnap children too, or was that just Jews and gypsies?

Oswald Bastable said...

Well,since you mention it, DOC drop 1080 all over the place and CYFS take children.

But our public servants are all politically neutral- so liarbour is off the hook there...

Barnsley Bill said...

PM, what you described was "scorched earth". not dissimilar to the way Cullen is trying to leave govt coffers.

dad4justice said...

What a load of horse shit gooner.
Get a life psycho melt.

Gooner said...

D4J, your view means nothing to me. In fact, because you have an opposing one gives me even more belief I am right.